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Looks like the bike is going to be totaled. $9711 worth of damage. Frame, Swing arm, sub frame, and forks are perfect. I may buy it back and just part the fucker out. :idk: I don't know what the buy back price is. Anyone looking for a track bike? |
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Glad to hear your healing up good... ftr, I have never had a hike in rates after any of my random accidents...only the standard regulated hikes...thats with Allstate...never had to deal with State Farm on the MC yet... |
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Whats the plan for a new ride? Another Zuk? Something else?
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Nooooooooooo...where would you be without riding?! This is terrible...:panic:
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Aw, Rider. I'm sorry to read all of this. You love riding. Are you sure about giving it up?
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The thing about it is. There was NOTHING I could have done differently that could have avoided that accident. I did everything right but shit just happens. Had I been screwing around or even just speeding, I could chalk it up to a dumb mistake. This was no mistake on my part. I have all winter to think about it though. |
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The first time I crashed I didn't ride again for 3 months. The first ride was tough. The low side I had a month ago wasn't as bad....as soon as my parts came in I rode again...only a two and a half week lay off. |
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After riding with you in Indy, I think you'd be great on the track. It'll satisfy that riding need and can do it with the most amount of precaution. People still get hurt out there, but it's usually due to their own errors.
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The woman spouts truth!! I know several people these days that save most of their riding for the track and are happy doing so. |
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I don't want to paint the picture that nothing will happen at the track... but the likelyhood of outside forces causing something is much more slim. I'm sorry your brain is into such a spin. Heal well, heal quickly and completely. THEN, make decisions. Don't ever decide anything until you are well. |
I'll have to wait and see how my knee feels.
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I just want you happy, Ed. I know riding is a source of joy for you. It'd suck to see you tuck it away because of this. I'd understand it, of course, but it'd suck all the same.
Before you give it up all together, would you try a track day or at least attend one? |
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The thing is Ed,there are very few people that understand how you feel better than I do. I have been where you are many times. To be honest,what you will determine in the next few weeks is how much you love riding. I remember that your wife was dead set against you buying this bike and I'm sure you're getting a full on assault of "I told you so"s. I also know that you have children and I'm sure that weighs on your mind. Take your time and weigh all of the variables. Remember one thing,you can always come back to riding. You have to be a father to your children and a husband to your wife first and foremost. People that dish out the "I'll do what I want and that bitch can just suck it up attitude" don't understand what a marriage and family are all about. Do what you have to to heal up,get your mind right and keep peace in your home. |
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Rider, you obviously understand your priorities and Im sure youll come up with a solution that suits you the best. Good luck on you recovery and just think, if you decide to go track only, you have a sick track toy waiting for you. |
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Holy shit Tigs, that's the most sensible and thoughtful thing I've ever seen you post! :panic: Rider... shake it off, heal up and see what's happening then, it's all you can do. As for the bike... a new(ish) 750 for cheap, excelent track bike! |
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Hey now I am fucking human you know! Jesus! That's the last nice thing I'll ever say in open forum!!! Yeesh! |
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Thanks for all the moral support guys. :twfix: This is why this place rocks.
I have an appointment to have an MRI done on my left leg. I still have some numbness in my leg and it's not getting any better after a week. My ankle is now turning purple and swelling up and it wasn't injured at all. All the blood is draining from my bruised knee into my ankle. I ran out of pain meds, and I called to see if I could get some more. I'll be picking up some more Vicodin and Flexoril after work. |
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Oh man,I have been there dude! Whatever you do,stay off that leg and do what you are told by the doctors! Be patient and try to keep your head up Bro! Try not to worry about the "what ifs" and concentrate on the now and the next moment. Be positive!!! You have people that love you and that are there for you. Pull that into yourself and hold it close for support when things get difficult and you will be just fine,I'm sure! |
Rider... well you have all winter to think it over...
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Sorry about the crash dude...you got hella lucky with a truck on your leg...real lucky. Heal up bro... I lived in MI for 7 years...what city are u in? |
That is a perfect track bike.
You can buy it back at auction for a couple grand and still have money for track parts and a street bike. |
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I'm in Grand Rapids. I grew up in in So Cal though. |
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Doesn't matter to me, I wont buy it back anyway, but come on $9700 worth of damage? I find it hard to believe. But oh well...... That is the insurance companies problem now and not mine. Oh another good thing is that if I get another bike, they cover the replacement value, so I can get an 09 or left over 08 for free. Otherwise if I just cash out, it just a check for market value of my old bike. |
go for an 09 ed, dew it dew it.
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09 GSXR1000....mmm mmmm good!
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Go with the GSXR. You know how great that bike was. Why venture into the unknown:idk:
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Jesus, you can buy track plastics and an exhaust and some wheels off the WERA boards for cheap, then buy a 2-3 year old 600SS for five grand for the street, and still have money for a track day or two left over. If you go with a replacement, you have a 2 year newer bike but so what? This is the perfect opportunity to expand your stable. Epic win. Quote:
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So $8500 - $2400 = 6100 - about $2500 to get it track ready, leaves me about $3600 for a street bike. Interesting angle. :idk: Wow that's a steal for an 08 848. |
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Whoa now you said they would give you "replacement" value if you buy a new bike. I doubt that you HAVE tyo buy the same EXACT bike,just a new one...in fact,I bet it'll be one of those deals where they cut a check to you and the dealership BUT once the check is cut,what you buy is up to you. |
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However, since gixxers are so plentiful, you can go on the wera boards and get it "track ready" for a lot cheaper than that. It's a question of how nice you want it to be. You could buy a stock exhaust can for 50 bucks, a rear wheel for 200, and some used race plastics for 300... if you wanted to do it on a budget. I don't know how fast you are on the track or how "track prepped" you'd want to go with it... that's really just a question of money and your wants/needs. Anyways, you can do whatever you want. What I'm trying to show you is that you have some great options here, and in my opinion have the perfect opportunity to get a sick track weapon and a good street bike. Clearly we all know that's what I would do in your current situation. This sort of seems to me like the gear thing in that other thread... I know it's easiest and simplest to just let them get you a new bike and move on, but you might want to consider the other options you have. In the end it's all your decision though. I'm sure you'll be happy with however it turns out :cheers: |
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And you're getting a bunch towards a replacement, right?
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Don't be a cheap bastard, buy the goddamn SuperDuke.
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If you are interested in that bike I would get on it quickly.
Ryan Hobbs is well known in this area as well as at the track, he sells tons of bikes and parts, and is a stand-up guy. Nice, too. If you do buy it and don't get it delivered, we'll have to meet up if you come out here to get it. Are you seriously interested in the bike? I'll give Ryan a heads up if you want. |
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Here she is being hauled away to the insurance companies storage facility. :no::jump:
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Got any more pictures? It just doesn't look that bad to be totalled. :(
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Man that thing is mint... send it over this way
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Finally after 6 months I got the cell phone pics that my wife took after the accident. God damn I miss her.... The bike not the wife, stupid!
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damn! way to ruin a pretty betty like that!
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DAYUM ED!!! Great camera phone fwiw...
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coming into this a bit late but glad you're okay. Great camera phone pics.....scary to see though. Now going back to read what actually happened! |
The pics don't show how steep that hill was. If you look back up close to the top of the hill you can see a faint skid mark where the rear wheel locked up. Then the tire caught, I high sided off the bike and then you can see the marks on the ground where the bike slid into the dump truck. Good thing I always wear gear AND I was only doing about 35mph at the time I locked up the rear wheel.
You can see by that last pic, there is not a single mark on me other than where the truck ran over my leg after I landed behind the rear wheels of the truck and he continued to back up. |
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Thats a big dump truck.
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holy fuck dude, you are lucky to still be breathing after tanglin' with that monster. :eek:
:wtf: was he doing in both lanes??! |
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Glad to see and hear you limped away with minimal damage! |
The pics make all the more scary. :eek: Glad you were okay after that.
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It's funny going back and looking at some of the old responses. People like CEO trying to point the finger that this was my fault. If it was my fault I would have gotten a ticket. I think it's safe to say that in reality there was no way to avoid this wreck other than to not be there at all. That, or creep over the hill at 5mph which is not realistic.
The police use a set formula to determine speed. They don't account for things like moisture from dew(which was not there when the investigation team showed up), rocks on the road, cold tires, leaves, going down hill....Those all add up. Their estimation said I was traveling 36 in a 35. In reality I COULD have been traveling more like 25 or 30. In any case, this was a situation that could not have been avoided. It doesn't matter though. I'm ok and that is the only thing that matters. The bike was totaled.. big deal. I got my money back from the insurance company and all of my medical bills were paid by the owner of the dump trucks insurance. Some things I learned form this experience: - Gear is your friend - Frame sliders might have saved my bike from the wrecking yard - No matter your riding experience, you are at risk of going down - Bikes can be replaced - I miss riding more than I thought I would Thanks to everyone who supported me though this. You guys are great. |
I'm glad it all worked out in the end. Like they say....bikes can be replaced. ;)
Do you have any lasting pain at all? I hope not! FWIW, I don't think CEO was being a dick. I think he was just pointing it out very matter of factly. I had an accident in my car a number of years ago. I was in second gear going up a hill in an ice storm. On the other side of the hill (which I obviously couldn't see) a car was spinning out and hitting a tree. As I crested that hill the tree was falling. Instead of losing control of my vehicle I actually controlled it enough to hit the top (more flexible branches) of the tree which caused less damage to the car. In the eyes of the insurance and the law I was still at fault because I lost control of my vehicle. Simple as. It's not a blaming thing. :idk: |
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I know CEO wasn't being a dick. He tells it like he thinks it is. He doesn't sugar coat anything and I respect him for that. Control or no control my bike was going to hit the truck no matter what I did so "losing control" played no part of the accident. The fact that he was over a blind hill and taking up both lanes of traffic is the ONLY reason the accident occurred. Had he had a flagger at the top of the hill it would have been a different story. Technically since he was moving and he was in my lane, he should have gotten a ticket for failure to yield right of way or in the very least crossing a double yellow line causing an accident. |
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I agree that its not the "truck drivers fault" for the fact that he had no control over your motorcycle and looking at the top of that hill, its only a 3% grade with at least a 100 foot view of the bottom. Glad I don't ride in MI anymore...roads are shit. |
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You should call Dale Sprik!!!:lol:
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Also joining in late.. glad to see you are still with us, and that is why I hate blind turns/hills what have you.
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I don't follow the "if you weren't doing this, then I wouldn't have done that". Example: if a cop crashes chasing you and he is 1/2 mile away, I don't think its "your fault". They may blame you, but the cop is in control of the vehicle, not you. You have -0- influence of the outcome. Same applies here. He is in 100% control of the vehicle with no influence from the truck driver. |
sorry... but I don't care if you have 10 mins of clear road... if you block the road and it results in an accident... YOU ARE AT FAULT.
especially when you do so buy a blind crest with no flagger or sign warning traffic. |
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What if a cop was blocking it? Cops fault? |
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I could go on...The vehicle in front has the right of way as long as another vehicle does not enter the path of the moving vehicle within ample stopping distance. People turn in front of people everyday. If you turn left and the car stops in the road, but the car coming from the other way keeps coming (has ample time to stop) but hits the car anyway, it is the car's fault that hit the car turning left. |
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Your in control of your vehicle. When entering a hill you have to slow down enough to stop for a potential vehicle stopped on the other side. Pure and simple. I'm not saying this accident could be avoided as that is not the arguement at all, but you don't get a free pass to just hit whatever the hell you want when that vehicle in the roadway did not enter into your path and claim its not your fault. It's passing the blame. |
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ok... what if the truck was pulling out of the drive way? he's impeeding traffic... and caused an accident...
yes... if the cop was stopped... he would be at fault. I don't know about MI... but in oregon... if you are broke down on the road... YOU MUST move the vehicle completely off the road... if you cannot get the vehcle completely off the road... YOU MUST PLACE FLAIRS AND/OR REFLECTIVE MARKERS 50 Yards before to warn drivers. and before you start picking this apart... the law actually says vehicles IMPEEDING TRAFFIC... ie broken down, blocking the road, or slow moving vehciles (they can get away with flashers as they have to be visible from >50yards) so really it depends on the states... Quote:
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