Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer (Post 173585)

well looks like i got through to him some... there's a small disclaimer under the pics now. its not a victory, but close

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 173692)

Congratulations! You've imposed your own brand of Nazism on another human being! Hurray!

Originally Posted by Tmall (Post 173699)

Well said. :whistle:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 173704)

I don't know if you're serious on not but I really don't feel that Dealers or any kind of salesmen should be considered "role models" it's ridiculous. That would be like getting mad at a car dealer that shows people driving without seatbelts (in a state where that's legal of course). Oh my GOD,I saw a commercial the other day for a bicycle shop that showed people riding bikes WITHOUT helmets,elbow guards,knee guards etc! Something has to be done!!!! There was also an ad for Office Max where the clerk had pens in his pocket......without a POCKET PROTECTOR!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 171841)

I dont try to convert people to gear, if they are dumb enough to not protect themselves, one less dumbass we have to worry about on the road.

Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer (Post 173924)

there's no law about it... but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. if it starts off with the dealerships promoting irresponsible behavior and riding habits, what chance to safe responsible riders have in a society that already has us labeled as delinquents.

So you approve of a dealer selling a Busa or a liter sport bike to a first time rider who may or may not have his MC license? there's not a law against it... but common sense would urge against it.

I mean I'm sorry... but my insurance rates are high enough for the simple fact that I'm part of a so called statistic because of dipshits who probably should never be on bikes to begin with. But since no one is holding any sort of responsibility things just continue to fall in a downward spiral...

Do I think an MC license should be required to buy a bike... YES

Do I think dealerships who sell to unlicensed riders should be fined, etc...YES

Do I think that the US should use a tiered licensing system similar if not identical to many European countries... YES...


Is that being a Nazi? NO...

Its trying to create better, safer, more responsible riders.

Originally Posted by ericr (Post 172159)

Thanks Rogue ;)

I started selling bikes in June of last year, and I can't tell y'all the number of 18-20 year olds that have never ridden that have come in wanting a liter bike because the 600's are "too slow". I just give them a look and say "what, 160mph is too slow for ya? How quick do you want to die?"

I will not ever try to upsell someone on a bike for a few dollars more commission if I don't think they're skilled enough to handle it. I usually try to turn the newbs to the Ninja 250, 500 or 650 or at best a ZZR (still have one left) or R6S.

Had a guy in the other week telling me his girlfriend needed a liter bike to keep up with him on his "Busa" in the curves. I told him I'd run him on any 600 in the curves for the title to his bike and he thought I was crazy :idk: This guy had to be 30 or so too, but some people have no clue.

Some people have no scruples and no concious, hell if I was trying to get rich I sure wouldn't be selling bikes for a living, and won't be long anyway with the economy heading where its going. $10 or $100 dollars on one sale isn't worth it to me. I just wish our owner would stock more gear, we've got very little in stock so it's kinda hard to push it though I do tell them to go somewhere if they don't order it from us. I do what I can but I sleep well at night.