Originally Posted by nhgunnut (Post 508416)

The Colt and the Smith are both fun little rifles. They are both how ever proprietor rifles that don't necessarily accept aftermarket AR parts. ( I don not believe the Smith will accept aftermarket AR trigger is someone knows otherwise please correct me) The Colt I believe is a Umarex they are the people that bring us the Walther P22 and a host of other look alike 22s. Lots of people have an love both of these rifles. I went a slightly different routs and went with a Dedicated 22lr upper. While there are lots of good options in the Upper Market ( I run a Tactical Solutions M4) the CMMG is incredible popular because it is a great blend of Value ( 335-400 for the upper depending on options) and Quality. You can run it on any Ar15 lower, or buy and build a lower (depending on what you want you are in for 139 to 500 on building a AR lower) This gives you the option of adding another upper in a different caliber later) and using whatever aftermarket bits you want on your upper and lower.
Pros of the Smith and Colt
Open the box clean it and shoot
If you do not have a AR lower or picture yourself getting a AR you don't need to get one
Cons
To a large degree what you see is what you get, Aftermarket options are limited when compared to the Dedicated upper.
If at a later date you want to add a different caliber you would be forced to buy another lower.

Originally Posted by JARVIS518 (Post 508446)

i have never thought about building a gun and dont anything about how difficult or easy it is. pretty much was just looking for out of the box and shoot. i do eventually want a 308 AR but i think i would want each gun and not have to take one apart to build another. with that being said i'll have to look into this and make a decision

Originally Posted by nhgunnut (Post 508472)

Building a lower is fairly easy, with the biggest challenge being the Roll Pins that old in the Bolt hold open and the Trigger Guard,, You might have to buy the roll pin punches at your hardware store. The rest is relatively easy and there are lots of online assembly manuals. For me I find installing the spring and Detent on the front take down pin a pain and an extra pair of hands for a about 5 seconds Useful. The rest of it is really kind of idiot proof.

Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 507532)

You guys should check out a show called Tac tv, mostly on the hunting channel

The host Larry vickers s a big shot tactical guy

This show had him at the glock training center
And shooting at a full size silhouette at distance w/ a glock 10mm. He hit a shot at 250 yds within 3 shots

Originally Posted by JARVIS518 (Post 508239)

anyone have one of these?

http://www.colt22rimfire.com/index.php?page=colt-m4-ops

i think i might like it a little more than the smith and wesson 15-22 looking for some feedback

Originally Posted by Twobanger (Post 508646)

I'm in the researching stage, but so far I'm leaning towards the M&P. The Colt is built by an Airsoft company and the barrel is thin steel in an aluminum sleeve. The M&P has a real barrel and you can swap some internals and the grip with actual AR components if you wanted to.

Originally Posted by Twobanger (Post 508646)

I'm in the researching stage, but so far I'm leaning towards the M&P. The Colt is built by an Airsoft company and the barrel is thin steel in an aluminum sleeve. The M&P has a real barrel and you can swap some internals and the grip with actual AR components if you wanted to.