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Congresswoman shot in Arizona
U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head outside a grocery store in Tucson while holding a public event, Arizona Public Media reported Saturday.
The Democrat, who was re-elected to her third term in November, was hosting a "Congress on Your Corner" event at the Safeway in northwest Tucson when a gunman ran up and started shooting, according to Peter Michaels, news director of Arizona Public Media. At least nine other people, including members of her staff, were hurt. Giffords was transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Her condition was not immediately known. Giffords was talking to a couple when the suspect ran up firing indiscriminately and then ran off, Michaels said. The suspect was tackled by a bystander and taken into custody. He was not injured. Giffords was first elected to represent Arizona's 8th District in 2006. The "Congress on Your Corner" events allow constituents to present their concerns directly to her. More details to come. http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764...medium=twitter |
Just saw this as well. I'm curious to see what the shooter's issue was. No matter what it turns out to be the shooter should still fry.
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http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764...hot-in-arizona
NPR now saying 7 are dead and that the shooter is a "late teen" or in early 20's... |
...and the message boards are already blaming Sarah Palin and Sharon Angle
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Apparently Glenn Beck too...
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someone may be taking something too seriously.
http://www.takebackthe20.com/ http://www.takebackthe20.com/candidates |
Hey ya'll should all stop hatin...unless you hate Republicans that is.
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If another politico indeed called for this woman's death, I wouldn't characterize this as "people trying to put political value on it". It's already there. If Palin did call for this woman's death, even if essentially only by suggestive graphic and the veiled suggestion of "you know what to do", then she should be clearly charged for complicity in any murders committed as a result of what could only be characterized as a rather blatant public incitement and inducement of murder. I believe in free speech, but you can't yell fire in a theatre. Speech designed to cause death and harm to others is not protected. That's actually technically conspiracy/complicity to murder. If this woman dies, Palin should be charged, if she indeed made these overt murder suggestions in a public forum. I think it's fair to say that given her rather high public profile, she should be well aware that this type of incitement would likely lead to violence. |
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Maybe you need to brush up on law, "dumbass".
Go use the word "bomb" in airport, asshole. See how far you get. Be sure to tell them you're only joking. ...But I'm the dumbass? :lmao: Douche. |
If the reason is political and related to some website or message put out by Palin, its not because of Palin that this women is dead.
It would be because of the type of idiot people like Palin attract as followers. However thats just speculation |
You're right. Arrest that man!!!
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/0...e-bring-a-gun/ Dumberasseser |
You don't yell fire in a theatre.
You don't say "bomb" at the airport. If you're a politician, you don't even say the word assassination, let alone make jokes, or veiled suggestions about the assassinations of politicians. It's EXACTLY the same thing, and it is NOT protected speech. |
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Palin + poor dietary habits = Murder. JC |
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I suppose if someone got hurt in a melee that might have ensued, a case could be made that he was partially at fault...although you're reaching like a motherfucker here, and it would be laughed at in court. This scenario, not so laughable. |
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I do know that if what was said here about what was supposedly posted on Palin's site is true, then that's incitement to murder, and not protected speech. |
Maybe the shooter was motivated by Palin/Angle/Beck or maybe he wasn't. At this point guessing about the shooter's motives is nothing more than that, a guess. Don't forget when the Democratic Party headquarters in Colorado was vandalized. Democrats and the media immediately blamed Republicans who opposed healthcare reform for the act. As it turned out it had been carried out by a former Democratic canvasser apparently trying to make it look like a Republican. I am in no way saying that is what happened here, but trying to logically figure out the motivation for what is ultimately an illogical act can lead to the wrong conclusions.
The shooter is alive. I'm sure we will hear soon enough what motivated him. |
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Hmmm. One was a sports joke, no one got hurt.
This is a situation where people died. Yeah, I suppose it's hilarious. |
At least we're still better than Pakistan...
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Yeah, but the distinction is kinda fading, no?
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Jared Lee LOUGHNER
"young, mid-to-late 20s (23), white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing." http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10 |
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Leftist the first to post a fake facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001935064664 |
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Yeah, funny guy, he shot a 9 year old, dead. It's hilarious, legally and otherwise.
Oh wait, no it isn't. |
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Holy fuck (about the original post and the turn it's taken)
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He used a fucking auto, or semi-auto too, right? That will no doubt be used by rabid anti-gun fanatics to further that agenda. Fucking great.
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Anyone have a decent reference for what palin and angle did? I see the comments, but would rather see an accurate representation, because I am unaware of this story.
Was it just a map targeting elections they wanted or was there more? Terrible about the original story. Hope it wasn't something as stupid as politics that caused this kid to do this. |
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The gun that was shown on his facebook page was a semi-auto pistol. JC |
Watch the buzzword "semi-automatic" be in nearly every headline starting in 3; 2; 1
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"I hate my Community College teachers because they're illiterate and unconstitutional" and "I'm starting my own currency". Sounds like the bats that flew out of Glen Becks mouth, found a belfry. JC |
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Sharon Angle said the following on the radio "Our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason, and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government." and also "In fact, Thomas Jefferson said it's good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years. I hope that's not where we're going, but you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies." |
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Naaah she most likely just the Anti-Christ and she will rise to world domination after this.
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http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townn...02e0.image.jpg
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535927,00.html JC |
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She was anti-immigration. These people don't seem too happy about that. |
That's the map, sorry I see no issue with that. There needs to be more to it than that for me to be upset about it. I don't believe in safety nazi sanitizing the world for nutjobs. Nutjobs will go nuts no matter what we do. He would of found another group to make him feel "a part of something" and went nutz on the con side of that.
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lol...a Arizona Congressman on CNN just said there is blood on Sarah Palin's hands. Lefty's are manning the political battle-stations.
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Not the same thing. JC |
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A. The guy is some form of crazy. B. He shot a bunch of Democrats, for as yet unknown reasons. You think he just happened to be driving by the Safeway, and decided to shoot up the parking lot on a bipartisan basis? I don't think so. The boy had an agenda of some sort. JC |
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Did she have no security detail present? All reports say she was shot from "point blank range" and if true the lack/utter failure of security ought to negate the fact that a gun was used Quote:
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But Politicians should never say anything, or even suggest anything in regards to killing, or assassination, in regards to themselves or others in public. It's just not done. Just like saying "bomb" at the airport. You just don't do that, and adults generally know better. She has always used incendiary militant language, and that kind of thing feeds freaks. She should know better, but she's profoundly fucking stupid, that bitch. |
Read this link...
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...-blogging.html A former friend of Loughner's has a Twitter feed. Quote:
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"Various Palin sites are frantically removing various incendiary materials - which is both gratifying, but also, it seems to me, an acknowledgment of previous rhetorical excess. TakeBackThe20.com is in meltdown, images like these are being removed ASAP, and Palin's Facebook page simply cannot cope with the number of commenters blasting her."
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...47e162ddb4970b |
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Well, Palin's political career is dead.
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Yeah, but at least the stupid bitch will disappear now
I'd bet TLC is cancelling her show as we speak.
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The media LOVES that one more then semi-auto. |
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Could he be a right wing tea partying lunatic who did this out of a wildly misguided sense of patriotism? Sure. Could he have done this because the government is responsible for making his bananas too yellow? Sure. At this point it is pure speculation. The guy is alive and his reasons will most likely come out. One thing I will claim is that when they do they still won't make any sense because this is ultimately a senseless act. Back to what we were discussing. I was asking if you saw the difference between this guy thinking the government was brainwashing people and controlling their minds and what you posted, discussion of potential ramifications of a bill that never made it out of committee. |
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Palin's show was cancelled, or at least not renewed for season 2. The explination given has nothing to do with the shooting
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b219...own_after.html |
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I don't know if she really had a shot [insert tasteless joke here], but I'm about as sick of that cunt as I am sick of the fucking Kardashians, and Justin Beiber.
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I would vote Obama over Palin. |
I hear ya, and if I was really partisan, I'd probably be pulling for her, for just that reason. I'd rather see someone with a real chance run, but who is even remotely legit on the other team?
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Uh oh, Avy. The media is going to run with this one too. Quote:
So basically pot smoking and guns are going to be attacked for the next few months. |
Pretty much.
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But then, I'm not (that) crazy. It all boils down to tone and inflection. I saw nothing in the bill that amounted to what I would consider active mind control. If, however, you are pre-disposed to being the poster boy for the "Homicidal White Loner Asshole Society", the shineola Beck's spitting out, could easily be construed as an affirmation of your paranoid delusions. Beck is a fear monger. "The country is being destroyed, everyone is a Socialist, the Illuminati are coming, and we're all going to hell. Here, buy some Gold." The man is a televised catalyst of evil. JC |
The more I hear about this, the more I see this spawning another patriot act. I hope we don't lose more freedoms cause of this dumbass.
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Of course we will. Shit like this causes fear. Fear is used as a tool by those who wish to control us, and they won't miss the opportunity to parlay this into some fucked up new legislation that makes us somehow less free.
This is pretty much a given, I'm afraid... |
For the people foaming at the mouth over Palin's use of targets, please make sure you give equal foamage towards the Dems too... The Democratic Leadership Council did the same shit back in 2004.
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?conte...=127&subid=171 http://www.dlc.org/upload_graphics/B...heartland1.gif The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has done it too, over a year ago... http://www.verumserum.com/media/2010...target-map.jpg "Targeted Republicans" http://www.verumserum.com/media/2010...republican.jpg It's funny and pathetic how many people are laying so much blame on both groups and individuals because of a SINGLE NUTJOB. This isn't about left or right, guns, or Sarah Palin, it's about some fucktard who went off the deep end. Get a grip people. |
Target =/= Gunsight.
You throw darts at a bulls-eye. A scope is found on a gun. |
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I have shot bullets and arrows at a bullseye. I have never thrown "darts." The bullseye looks nothing like a true dartboard. You are really reaching to try to pawn this one off instead of just admitting the obvious. Palin is not guilty of forcing anyone sane to pursue this method. |
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Yep, you're right; the Democratic one looks like an archery target.
Palin's is unmistakably a gun scope. I imagine that if the Democrats used inflammatory language also (like "RELOAD!"), they might have incited someone to nefarious "archery". Or not. |
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I have shot numerous times at a similar target at my local gun range with similar colors. http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...e-22884709.jpg |
Are you familiar with the term disambiguation?
Palin's targets are not in any way ambiguous. The others are, you proved it here. Just saying. |
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If you are for neither party, just say, yep they pulled the same shit and move on with your day. Why is it so important to defend them? I see no issue with either party using it, BTW. Just like Kellen Winslow saying he was a "fuckin soldier" after getting beat by UT in a football game. Did he mean he was a fuckin soldier killing enemy soldiers? fuck no. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I82BPA5QAaQ |
I think palin is a complete moron, but I also to think you're a moron if you think palin influenced this in anyway.
This guy was just insane. |
Freakshow was a leftist:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334...me_and_courts/ See bottom of article. Quote:
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Shit happens, that's why I don't care about either party's target maps. They can't be held responsible for insane individuals. A sane person knows those maps don't actually mean target to kill. |
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