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umairhashmi 07-19-2009 12:43 PM

Plane on conveyor... Will it ever take off?
 
A plane is standing on a runway that can move (some sort of band conveyer like a treadmill). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction. This conveyer has a control system that tracks the plane speed and tunes the speed of the conveyer to be exactly the same (but in opposite direction).

The question is:

Will the plane take off or not? Will it be able to run up and take off?

101lifts2 07-19-2009 12:48 PM

Oh Jesus not this again....the answer is no, because at the takeoff speed of 175mph the air moving under the wings aids the air produced by the jets.

thirdgenlxi 07-19-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 243530)
Oh Jesus not this again....the answer is no, because at the takeoff speed of 175mph the air moving under the wings aids the air produced by the jets.

Huh??

derf 07-19-2009 12:50 PM

Yes, because the wheels do not drive the plane, the jet engines do so they will move the plane through the air (even if the wheels are on the ground).

However you will probably encounter some parasidic drag from the wheels rolling resistance, and possibly tire/wheel bearing/ undercarriage failure from teh extra heat and or forces from the wheels having to spin at twice their normal speed.

DIMford 07-19-2009 12:54 PM

Will this ever die... please die...

Amber Lamps 07-19-2009 12:57 PM

Are you guys crazy? Airplanes fly because of lift, the engines create forward motion, forward motion cause air movement around wings which creates lift, no forward motion, no lift, no lift, no fly! Basic.

Rider 07-19-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 243530)
Oh Jesus not this again....the answer is no, because at the takeoff speed of 175mph the air moving under the wings aids the air produced by the jets.

Wrong. It doesn't matter what the wheels do. The wheels could be spinning at 1000 mph and it doesn't matter. The thrust of the engine will push it forward. Now if you have a 10,000 foot conveyor, the plane will take off.

thirdgenlxi 07-19-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 243539)
Are you guys crazy? Airplanes fly because of lift, the engines create forward motion, forward motion cause air movement around wings which creates lift, no forward motion, no lift, no lift, no fly! Basic.

It is very basic indeed, just gotta think about what makes an airplane move... but you're still incorrect, lol


And yes, will this thread ever die !!!!:skep:

Amber Lamps 07-19-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thirdgenlxi (Post 243541)
It is very basic indeed, just gotta think about what makes an airplane move... but you're still incorrect, lol


And yes, will this thread ever die !!!!:skep:


hahaha! You're right! Because the engines pull/push the plane though the air. The wheels will just turn. Ha all of you guys are right, I am a dumbass and don't deserve to live!!! man, I got stuck on forward motion but the wheels don't dictate that on a plane, duh!

derf 07-19-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 243542)
hI am a dumbass and don't deserve to live!!!


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