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Old 10-25-2009, 12:41 PM   #29
Amber Lamps
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Originally Posted by FT BSTRD View Post
I don't think anyone is making any excuses for either Buell power plant here (or the ZTL brakes).


The engines are just different.


You know what is interesting about your first graph? The Buell is the ONLY air-cooled bike in that line up. Almost like someone WANTED to show Buell in a bad light. That couldn't be right, though, could it?


Why not compare the Buell against OTHER air-cooled bikes? Talk about "apples to apples".


You also do understand that those charts are showing HP not Torque, right? I think that was the original point.


I have two engines. One that has a displacement of 5.7L and one that has 3.2L. Which one makes the most HP? Which one makes the most Torque?

Yea it's fucking impossible to find a torque chart!!!! I posted those for illustration purposes only.

As far as "apples to apples" goes, well hey your boy brought his product to market as "competition" to the Japanese. Besides, who else is stupid enough to run an air cooled motor on a sport bike in the 21st century? Who would you like to compare Buells to? I mean OTHER than inline 600s? I mean, they get compared to other twins of similar ccs and you aren't happy, they get compared to inlines of similar ccs and you aren't happy. Are you seriously telling me that the only way your bikes can legitimately compete with the Italians and the Japanese is if we only compare them to bikes with half the displacement? Gee I wonder why they went out of business....

Oh and my point about ZTL and whatever was that it was marketed as an improvement but when ever the brakes are criticized...

Dude, I'm hoping that you are just messing around and aren't serious here... you seriously sound like the guys on Pinks that bring a car to race and spend the whole show complaining that the other team's car is better/faster and they should be handicapped accordingly....

BTW I'm sure that Buell's demise was all part of an elaborate conspiracy on the part of the American motorcycle press to destroy the only American sportbike...

Ha found one! I believe it shows that a GSXR1000 makes about 65 ft/lbs at 4500 which is probably more than most, if not all 600s make period...


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