No more Hybrids in HOV Lane in CA....

[101lifts2]

http://www.greencarreports.com/blog/...ov-lane-access

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[derf]

Sorry but hybrids are pretty stupid, their gas mileage isnt much better than what I can get on my full gas honda fit, they cost 5k more and their only reason to exist is to give rich folks a reason to say they are "green"

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by derf

Sorry but hybrids are pretty stupid, their gas mileage isnt much better than what I can get on my full gas honda fit, they cost 5k more and their only reason to exist is to give rich folks a reason to say they are "green"

Agree. I had a 1998 Dodge Neon Sport with a 2.0L DOHC 4cyl and 150hp that got a legitimate 32mpg. It was also snappy, quick and never left me wanting for more power. It didn't even care how hard you drove it, it still gave you great gas mileage.

I've never understood what the big deal is with the Hybrids, as you said, they don't do much better than other small cars.

The worst is the Smart car though. They're outrageously expensive, tiny, scary, and don't even manage to get great gas mileage.

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Agree. I had a 1998 Dodge Neon Sport with a 2.0L DOHC 4cyl and 150hp that got a legitimate 32mpg. It was also snappy, quick and never left me wanting for more power. It didn't even care how hard you drove it, it still gave you great gas mileage.

I've never understood what the big deal is with the Hybrids, as you said, they don't do much better than other small cars.

The worst is the Smart car though. They're outrageously expensive, tiny, scary, and don't even manage to get great gas mileage.

The point of the Smart car is its small size for city driving and parking, not gas mileage. There really isn't much point to them over here in the States, but plenty of other cities in the world are ideal for them.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

The point of the Smart car is its small size for city driving and parking, not gas mileage. There really isn't much point to them over here in the States, but plenty of other cities in the world are ideal for them.

They're touted for their gas mileage too.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

They're touted for their gas mileage too.

I almost bought one...since it would fit in my 1 car garage with 2 bikes. They also get 41mpg...which isn't bad.

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

They're touted for their gas mileage too.

Only by people in the US who desperately need to justify their purchase.

Like goof said, though, the diesel is actually pretty badass.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

The worst is the Smart car though. They're outrageously expensive, tiny, scary, and don't even manage to get great gas mileage.

The Smart diesel makes much more sense. 85mpg on a British gallon in a combined cycle (subtract 20% for US gallons and it is still 68mpg) is pretty damn good. The gas ones are stupid though. I have yet to see the hybrid that makes much sense either.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by derf

Sorry but hybrids are pretty stupid, their gas mileage isnt much better than what I can get on my full gas honda fit, they cost 5k more and their only reason to exist is to give rich folks a reason to say they are "green"

Don't forget that at end of life it will be far worse

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by derf

Sorry but hybrids are pretty stupid, their gas mileage isnt much better than what I can get on my full gas honda fit, they cost 5k more and their only reason to exist is to give rich folks a reason to say they are "green"

and then there is the issue of how much energy it consumes just to build them. I'll stick to driving my 223k mi Camry that still gets decent mileage.

Would prefer to ride the bike as much as absolutely possible, but it's kinda tough when you have a child to take places. I just can't bring myself to suit her up and put her on my bike with me. While it would suck if anything happened to me on the bike, at least I'm aware of all of the dangers and can make that decision myself. I just can't put her in that same danger, so I drive the car whenever I have her.

I'm not sure how old she'll have to be before I'm comfortable with her being on the back of the bike. I remember being her age and my dad taking my sister and I both for rides, wearing shorts, t-shirts and no helmets. He'd have one of us on the tank and the other on the seat behind him. But things were different back then. We'd ride in the front seat with no seat belt, or sit in the bed of the truck. Now, we don't even do that.