Old tires a threat

[Avatard]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aged...hazard-4826897

[BobTheBiker]

right at 5:00 mins proves the tire manufacturers association is a bunch of FUCKTARDS. its no big secret that tires do go bad after a period of time, just like everything else. our motorcycling world has known this for a LONG ASS time.

[Dave]

not according to the darkside guys one dude was claiming 100,000 mile range on one rear

[derf]

Originally Posted by Dave

not according to the darkside guys one dude was claiming 100,000 mile range on one rear

Sounds somewhat realistic depending on the tire and the size, weight and riding style of the bike and rider. Get one of those super long lasting tires that wont wear out for 70k mi and pussy foot or dont turn and it may just last about 100k mi.

[smileyman]

The front I crashed my Buell on was installed at the factory, delivered to the dealer in Feb 07, ridden for 6 miles, and then stored with the bike until I bought it in July 09. I knew it was stale as shit and it almost killed me.

For comparison the new BT021 on my ZX6 is a better, more consistent tire than the stale year and a half old Pirelli Corsa 3 that lowsided my ass into 6 months of pain.

[Homeslice]

Maybe for bikes, but for cars it's not a big deal. Right now I have some tires that are 10 years old with somewhere between 40-50K miles on them, and they grip just fine. BTW vid doesn't work.

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Maybe for bikes, but for cars it's not a big deal. Right now I have some tires that are 10 years old with somewhere between 40-50K miles on them, and they grip just fine. BTW vid doesn't work.

Yes it grips fine but what they are talking about is the tire coming apart. At that point it doesn't grip anymore.

I don't like the fact that they kept showing highway tractor tires on the side of the road. It was like they were trying to say they were car tires when clearly they were not.

I do believe that they can come apart. And a tread can last longer then the tire itself can but if the tire goes then the tread doesn't mean shit.

I have tossed tires with that were still above the wear bar because of dry rot.

James

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Flexin

I don't like the fact that they kept showing highway tractor tires on the side of the road. It was like they were trying to say they were car tires when clearly they were not.

I didn't like that either. The fact that they gave no statistics demonstrating frequency of accidents due to this issue wasn't encouraging. If these accidents occurred with anywhere near the frequency the report implied you also would think they could have found some real life survivors to sit in front of the camera and recount their horrific ordeal. That they only used one possible case to demonstrate their was a problem while laying no foundation for the event in question (how was the van loaded, what condition were the tires in, how many miles did the tires have) doesn't sit well with me. I believe they stated in the video that the tires were 4 years old when purchased and 9 years old at the time of the accident. For the average American passenger vehicle that would equate to around 75k miles on the tires at the time of the accident.

Maybe old tires are the problem the report makes it out to be, but the shitty reporting calls that contention in to question for me.

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by goof2

I didn't like that either. The fact that they gave no statistics demonstrating frequency of accidents due to this issue wasn't encouraging. If these accidents occurred with anywhere near the frequency the report implied you also would think they could have found some real life survivors to sit in front of the camera and recount their horrific ordeal. That they only used one possible case to demonstrate their was a problem while laying no foundation for the event in question (how was the van loaded, what condition were the tires in, how many miles did the tires have) doesn't sit well with me. I believe they stated in the video that the tires were 4 years old when purchased and 9 years old at the time of the accident. For the average American passenger vehicle that would equate to around 75k miles on the tires at the time of the accident.

Maybe old tires are the problem the report makes it out to be, but the shitty reporting calls that contention in to question for me.

Yes they could have given more info, and it would have been nice to see pics of the other tires since they showed pics of the van.

Tires that are 4 years old should fine for a trip.

James

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Flexin

Yes they could have given more info, and it would have been nice to see pics of the other tires since they showed pics of the van.

Tires that are 4 years old should fine for a trip.

James

4 year old tires should be fine, but that is my primary problem with the story. The tires were 4 years old when sold. At the time of the accident they were 9 years old. How many miles did they accrue over the 5 years they were on the van and what condition were they in at the time of the accident? That they never mentioned either in the story leads me to believe that, at best, those two facts didn't support the narrative they were trying to sell.