"Think of the children" FAIL

[pauldun170]

State to mom: Stop baby-sitting neighbors' kids
By JAMES PRICHARD, Associated Press Writer James Prichard, Associated Press Writer Tue Sep 29, 7:23 pm ET


IRVING TOWNSHIP, Mich. – Each day before the school bus comes to pick up the neighborhood's children, Lisa Snyder did a favor for three of her fellow moms, welcoming their children into her home for about an hour before they left for school.

Regulators who oversee child care, however, don't see it as charity. Days after the start of the new school year, Snyder received a letter from the Michigan Department of Human Services warning her that if she continued, she'd be violating a law aimed at the operators of unlicensed day care centers.

"I was freaked out. I was blown away," she said. "I got on the phone immediately, called my husband, then I called all the girls" — that is, the mothers whose kids she watches — "every one of them."

Snyder's predicament has led to a debate in Michigan about whether a law that says no one may care for unrelated children in their home for more than four weeks each calendar year unless they are licensed day-care providers needs to be changed. It also has irked parents who say they depend on such friendly offers to help them balance work and family.

On Tuesday, agency Director Ismael Ahmed said good neighbors should be allowed to help each other ensure their children are safe. Gov. Jennifer Granholm instructed Ahmed to work with the state Legislature to change the law, he said.

"Being a good neighbor means helping your neighbors who are in need," Ahmed said in a written statement. "This could be as simple as providing a cup of sugar, monitoring their house while they're on vacation or making sure their children are safe while they wait for the school bus."

Snyder learned that the agency was responding to a neighbor's complaint.

Granholm spokeswoman Liz Boyd said the agency was following standard procedure in its response. "But we feel this (law) really gets in the way of common sense," Boyd said.

"We want to protect kids, but the law needs to be reasonable," she said. "When the governor learned of this, she acted quickly and called the director personally to ask him to intervene."

State Rep. Brian Calley, R-Portland, said he was working to draft legislation that would exempt situations like Snyder's from coverage under Michigan's current day care regulations.

The bill will make it clear that people who aren't in business as day care providers don't need to be licensed, Calley said.

"These are just kids that wait for the bus every morning," he said. "This is not a day care."

Snyder, 35, lives in a rural subdivision in Barry County's Irving Township about 25 miles southeast of Grand Rapids. Her tidy, comfortable three-bedroom home is a designated school bus stop. The three neighbor children she watched — plus Snyder's first-grader, Grace — attend school about six miles away in Middleville.

Snyder said she started watching the other children this school year to help her friends; they often baby-sit for each other during evenings and weekends.

After receiving the state agency's letter, she said she called the agency and tried to explain that she wasn't running a day care center or accepting money from her friends.

Under state law, no one may care for unrelated children in their home for more than four weeks each calendar year unless they are licensed day-care providers. Snyder said she stopped watching the other children immediately after receiving the letter, which was well within the four-week period.

"I've lived in this community for 35 years and everyone I know has done some form of this," said Francie Brummel, 42, who would drop off her second-grade son, Colson, before heading to her job as deputy treasurer of the nearby city of Hastings.

Other moms say they regularly deal with similar situations.

Amy Cowan, 34, of Grosse Pointe Farms, a Detroit suburb, said she often takes turns with her sister, neighbor and friend watching each other's children.

"The worst part of this whole thing, with the state of the economy ... two parents have to work," said Cowan, a corporate sales representative with a 5-year-old son and 11-month-old daughter. "When you throw in the fact that the state is getting involved, it gives women a hard time for going back to work.

"I applaud the lady who takes in her neighbors' kids while they're waiting for the bus. She's enabling her peers to go to work and get a paycheck. The state should be thankful for that."

Amy Maciaszek, 42, of McHenry, Ill., who works in direct sales, said she believes the state agency was "trying to be overprotective."

"I think it does take a village and that's the best way," said Maciaszek, who has a 6-year-old boy and twin 3-year-old daughters. "Unfortunately you do have to be careful about that. These mothers are trying to do the right thing."

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Associated Press writers Randi Goldberg Berris and David Runk in Detroit and Kathy Barks Hoffman in Lansing, Mich., contributed to this report.

[shmike]

I'm not sure what is more disturbing: the state processing the complaint or the neighbor that complained.

[ontwo]

Nothing surprises me with stuff like this. I serve on the city council, and just the other day I find out that my neighbor has been calling city hall complaining that I don't remove my garbage can from the side of the road in a timely manner

Nevermind all the work I've done on my house to improve her property value

[Sixxxxer]

Trash cans...Really? Fuck I'd leave them out there all week and not take them in at all...

Fuck people.

[ontwo]

Some weeks I do

[Sixxxxer]

Lucky for me I have Very Chill neighbors...They dont say shit to me at all..ever.

Which is good b/c i'm a prick so if they had an issue i would just make sure i always did what pissed them off.

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

Lucky for me I have Very Chill neighbors

Everyone in my neighborhood owns guns. We are very polite to each other for some odd reason.

Funny neighbor complaint story is at a machine shop I worked at (which was a guy hangout) we had the cops called on us for washing cars in front of the shop. We found out the people across from us called th cops because our soap was going into the sewers. 3 weeks later we see DEA SWAT all over their ass for running a meth lab and housing a 13 year old runaway girl.

Should have let the kids stand on the corner by themselvs that way I'm able to give out "free" candy easier.

[ontwo]

Well, I live in an awesome neighborhood. The lady that O'm talking about is probably 100. So I don't get upset about it

[Avatard]

The law wasn't written right. It needs to be amended. The neighbors are assholes, and someone NEEDS to leave them a flaming bag of dogshit on the welcome mat.

[Kaneman]

Tattle taleing should be punishable by hanging. One of my old lady neighbors called the cops on me for riding my Honda 50 up and down the road at about 10mph.