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03-28-2014, 11:09 PM
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A man's right to choose.
Interesting read: the "financial abortion."
http://content.time.com/time/nation/...173414,00.html Related content: http://forums.menshealth.com/topic/6...7212688?page=1 |
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This has always been my argument, I am glad to see that it might actually have it's day in court. If a woman can have sex and be free to end it without any consultation of the father, the father should also be free to not be apart of it if she decides to keep it. Both should be equally free to be as irresponsible about sex if they choose to be that way.
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03-29-2014, 12:08 AM
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It would prevent a lot of this...
http://www.stopforcedabortions.org/d...dAbortions.pdf Also, I don't agree that wanting or having an abortion means a person is acting irresponsibly about sex. I can personally attest that shit happens even when appropriate precautions have been taken. |
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03-30-2014, 02:28 PM
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I don't really agree with all of this. Allowing some idiot to knock up woman and say, "Um, I don't want it. Have fun. Later!". What ever happened to manning up and taking responsibility? Use condoms, buy your own (or check them over well. But I say it is safer to buy your own). In the first link she said she couldn't have any because of medical reasons. He shouldn't have took the chances. You don't want any? Then take every precaution you can. James
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03-30-2014, 03:36 PM
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I don't think a father should have any legal say in whether or not a woman submits to an abortion, but he shouldn't be left completely powerless in the situation, either. If a woman thinks she is too young to have a baby, if she's worried that she won't be able to finish college with a child, if she feels she just isn't cut out for motherhood, etc... she can legally opt out. If a man experiences these same feelings but the woman wants to keep the child, he must legally commit to 18 or more years of financial support (at a minimum). Men currently have no say in these matters and it isn't fair. I also believe that not having any means of legally opting out of child support leads to most of the forced/coerced abortions detailed in my other link. Let the crazy/selfish/whatever guy walk and he won't bully you to the clinic. |
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03-29-2014, 04:09 PM
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Hold mah beer!
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If you are going to play, there could be consequences unless you seek permanent solutions.
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03-30-2014, 11:34 PM
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Condoms. What are those says the the welfare community.
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03-31-2014, 07:19 AM
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You know I would tend to agree with the majority here, if there wasn't a huge disparity in the risks involved between the man and woman. Getting trapped by a woman who claimed she couldn't get pregnant? Well you really didn't do anything to protect yourself from disease, did you? the whole 'consequences' thing works both ways.
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03-31-2014, 09:40 AM
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Hold mah beer!
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Condoms aren't always effective as well. You should be able to relinquish your rights as a parent/provider without the woman's consent if you are going to allow a woman to do the same without your consent. It definitely needs to be restricted to where you can only do it in a certain early time window where the woman can abort if she feels she cannot keep the child without the financial support of the father. Well that is unless the woman keeps it hidden from the man during this window, then the man gets another opportunity to opt out due to her attempt to hide it from him and collect. Last edited by Trip; 03-31-2014 at 09:43 AM.. |
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03-31-2014, 12:55 PM
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One word to avoid ALL of this: Anal.
And for you freaks: Painal. |
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