The Truth About Lie-Detection – What Works And What Doesn't

Avatard · 12-28-2009, 11:10 PM

Of course, if you're innocent, this shouldn't affect you...or would it?

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/nurtu...t-doesn-t.aspx

Turns out, the interrogators often get it 100% WRONG.

fatbuckRTO · 12-29-2009, 11:49 AM

Hell, even polygraphs seem to be more of an art than a science.

Avatard · 12-29-2009, 12:26 PM

Think of how may people must have been screwed over, and are sitting in jail now, because some fucktard took some department "course" on spotting deception, and thinks he knows what's going on. Add this to the arrogance typically displayed by law enforcement, and you have a recipe for disaster.

the chi · 12-29-2009, 01:27 PM

I may be wrong, but I thought you couldnt convict someone on the results of a lie detector test?

Avatard · 12-29-2009, 01:34 PM

You can't. You can't convict someone based on a supposed "expert's best guess" either.

...but if you think this fact prevents cops from using these and other techniques to intimidate, harass, pressure, and frame suspects, you're naive.

the chi · 12-29-2009, 01:45 PM

No, i know its used as an interrogation and intimidation tactic, but I was referring more to your post about innocents sitting in jail as it appeared you were stating it was because of a lie detector test.

fasternyou929 · 12-29-2009, 03:14 PM

I've taken one and it read me completely wrong. I was still pissed about the incident, my face would turn red and my heart would nearly beat out of my chest just thinking about it. Translation: you're lying!

No, they can't be used to convict anybody. But once the jury and/or prosecutor hear a polygraph was failed, everything changes.

derf · 12-29-2009, 04:21 PM

Polygraph test results can also be used to obtain search warrants, where you can get in trouble for other stuff

101lifts2 · 12-29-2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derf

Polygraph test results can also be used to obtain search warrants, where you can get in trouble for other stuff

Experience?

BobTheBiker · 12-29-2009, 10:27 PM

polygraph tests dont work as well as dangling somene over a tank full of sharks and tossing a bloody rag in.

very tall buildings always work too.

12-28-2009, 11:10 PM	#1
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	The Truth About Lie-Detection – What Works And What Doesn't Of course, if you're innocent, this shouldn't affect you...or would it? http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/nurtu...t-doesn-t.aspx Turns out, the interrogators often get it 100% WRONG. __________________ Insert free thought here.

12-29-2009, 11:49 AM	#2
fatbuckRTO This is not the sig line. Join Date: Dec 2008 Moto: Be prepared. What? Oh, moto... Posts: 1,279	Hell, even polygraphs seem to be more of an art than a science. __________________ This was no time for half measures. He was a captain, godsdammit. An officer. Things like this didn't present a problem for an officer. Officers had a tried and tested way of solving problems like this. It was called a sergeant. -Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

12-29-2009, 12:26 PM	#3
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Think of how may people must have been screwed over, and are sitting in jail now, because some fucktard took some department "course" on spotting deception, and thinks he knows what's going on. Add this to the arrogance typically displayed by law enforcement, and you have a recipe for disaster. __________________ Insert free thought here.

12-29-2009, 01:34 PM	#5
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	You can't. You can't convict someone based on a supposed "expert's best guess" either. ...but if you think this fact prevents cops from using these and other techniques to intimidate, harass, pressure, and frame suspects, you're naive. __________________ Insert free thought here.

12-29-2009, 04:21 PM	#8
derf token jewboy Join Date: Nov 2008 Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man Posts: 10,799	Polygraph test results can also be used to obtain search warrants, where you can get in trouble for other stuff __________________

12-29-2009, 03:14 PM	#7
fasternyou929 SFL Expatriate #2 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Moto: CBR1000 Posts: 2,043	I've taken one and it read me completely wrong. I was still pissed about the incident, my face would turn red and my heart would nearly beat out of my chest just thinking about it. Translation: you're lying! No, they can't be used to convict anybody. But once the jury and/or prosecutor hear a polygraph was failed, everything changes.

12-29-2009, 10:27 PM	#10
BobTheBiker too much time on my hands Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: the northern district of god damn Moto: 01 ZX6R, looking for more now. Posts: 1,802	polygraph tests dont work as well as dangling somene over a tank full of sharks and tossing a bloody rag in. very tall buildings always work too.