Absolute worste beginner bike

Smittie61984 · 06-28-2008, 04:04 PM

I was thinking about this the other day. I've seen newbies go out and get Litre bikes or even Busa and do alright. But got to thinking what some bikes would be that would just absolutely suck for a newbie.

Now assuming the rider isn't a complete moron what would you think. Say he (Going with he so weight/height of the bike isn't an issue) just didn't have any friends to tell him different (For or against) and he wasn't an internet person. He's going to ride somewhat hard but isn't going to leave the shop doing a wheelie down the interstate (On purpose). Saying they have no motorcycle or even ATV experience.

My vote would be the RC51. That or a Ducati 1098. You could regulate yourself with an inline 4 but I think the very low end torque will get a newbie in big trouble.

Cutty72 · 06-28-2008, 04:07 PM

I still think the powerband hit of an I4 would still be worse.

Sure, the first few times riding the V-twin they are gonna get scared shitless. But with the I4, they will start out riding down low, until they get a bit more comfortable, then they get ballsy and hammer on it. Powerband hits and BAM... there they lay.

PiZdETS · 06-28-2008, 07:45 PM

Turbo hayabusa with two-stage throttle activated nitrous, 2 foot extended swingarm and a bald 120 rear tire.

Instant death for a newb.

Dave · 06-28-2008, 08:17 PM

first year tlr1000, theres reasons they called em widowmakers

PhiSig1071 · 06-28-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

first year tlr1000, theres reasons they called em widowmakers

Oh HELL yes.

I want one of those bikes SO bad, I wrote a bit on that bike on here before, I believe that my exact words were:

"More fun than a room full of hookers and a gallon ziploc of X, but almost as likely to get you in trouble"

Aside from that, the VERY worst bike I have ever seen, the biggest bitch to ride, and the greatest potential for a NASTY highside would HAVE to be a Factory CR500X plated supermoto. I also want one of those.

fnfalman · 06-29-2008, 01:18 AM

Big ass cruisers - name your brand here.

DLIT · 06-29-2008, 10:29 AM

An I4 will get you in trouble down low still. You make it sound like there's no power at all down low in an I4. Especially for a newbie with no previous MC or ATV (Me) experience. That's why I'd say any, 600 or higher, sportbike could be potentially the worst. Not so much as the litre bikes, but still...My vote would be ZX14 or Busa. If I had ever rode a v-twin litre bike, my vote may be different, but I've only rode an 848 and didn't romp on the gas.

MikeSP1 · 06-29-2008, 02:57 PM

I'd say either the RC or TLR. On one of these (especially the RC) you can be cruising very low (outside the powerband), smack it, and it will take off like a raped ape, with an I4 if you're cruising at low engine speed and smack it, it'll go, but just take a little longer. Or any big cruiser.

Cutty72 · 06-29-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSP1

I'd say either the RC or TLR. On one of these (especially the RC) you can be cruising very low (outside the powerband), smack it, and it will take off like a raped ape, with an I4 if you're cruising at low engine speed and smack it, it'll go, but just take a little longer. Or any big cruiser.

1125 fits in that category too.

Smittie61984 · 06-29-2008, 04:12 PM

I think a Hayabusa is better than a Litre. The Hayabusa doesn't seem to stand up as much. I've always compare it to a jet taking off. It just starts to pull and slowly starts to bring the front end up. On a litre you smack it and the front is coming up.

Now I've ridden an RC51 and a SV1000. The RC51 was harder to ride to me than the SV1000. I loved it but saw great potential for trouble.

My vote would be any 1000cc+ V-twin.

But yes the powerband of the I4s can get you into a lot of trouble too. I just think someone could actually regulate themselves better with an I4 better than a V-twin which is strong power between 2k-12k compared to 11k-15k.

I also wonder about say the Triumph 1050s. Those have got to be monsters

06-28-2008, 04:04 PM	#1
Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	Absolute worste beginner bike I was thinking about this the other day. I've seen newbies go out and get Litre bikes or even Busa and do alright. But got to thinking what some bikes would be that would just absolutely suck for a newbie. Now assuming the rider isn't a complete moron what would you think. Say he (Going with he so weight/height of the bike isn't an issue) just didn't have any friends to tell him different (For or against) and he wasn't an internet person. He's going to ride somewhat hard but isn't going to leave the shop doing a wheelie down the interstate (On purpose). Saying they have no motorcycle or even ATV experience. My vote would be the RC51. That or a Ducati 1098. You could regulate yourself with an inline 4 but I think the very low end torque will get a newbie in big trouble. __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

06-28-2008, 07:45 PM	#3
PiZdETS ⎷⎛⎝ ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠ ⎷⎛⎝ Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ⎷⎛⎝ ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠ ⎷⎛⎝ Moto: ⎷⎛⎝ ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠ ⎷⎛⎝ Posts: 990	Turbo hayabusa with two-stage throttle activated nitrous, 2 foot extended swingarm and a bald 120 rear tire. Instant death for a newb. __________________

06-29-2008, 01:18 AM	#6
fnfalman Europhile Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal Moto: Aprilia RS125, Aprilia SR50 Factory, Aprilia Tuono, BMW Rockster, KTM 990 Adventure Posts: 1,875	Big ass cruisers - name your brand here. __________________ *Cogito Ergo Vroom - I think therefore I ride*

06-29-2008, 10:29 AM	#7
DLIT Clit Commander Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Las Vegas Moto: 2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale S Posts: 4,189	An I4 will get you in trouble down low still. You make it sound like there's no power at all down low in an I4. Especially for a newbie with no previous MC or ATV (Me) experience. That's why I'd say any, 600 or higher, sportbike could be potentially the worst. Not so much as the litre bikes, but still...My vote would be ZX14 or Busa. If I had ever rode a v-twin litre bike, my vote may be different, but I've only rode an 848 and didn't romp on the gas. __________________ Dress for the crash. Not the ride.

06-29-2008, 04:12 PM	#10
Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	I think a Hayabusa is better than a Litre. The Hayabusa doesn't seem to stand up as much. I've always compare it to a jet taking off. It just starts to pull and slowly starts to bring the front end up. On a litre you smack it and the front is coming up. Now I've ridden an RC51 and a SV1000. The RC51 was harder to ride to me than the SV1000. I loved it but saw great potential for trouble. My vote would be any 1000cc+ V-twin. But yes the powerband of the I4s can get you into a lot of trouble too. I just think someone could actually regulate themselves better with an I4 better than a V-twin which is strong power between 2k-12k compared to 11k-15k. I also wonder about say the Triumph 1050s. Those have got to be monsters __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

06-28-2008, 08:17 PM	#4
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	first year tlr1000, theres reasons they called em widowmakers

06-29-2008, 02:57 PM	#8
MikeSP1 Perpetual trouble Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at the base of the Alps Moto: VTX 1300C, RC51, CBR600RR, CBR929RR Posts: 715	I'd say either the RC or TLR. On one of these (especially the RC) you can be cruising very low (outside the powerband), smack it, and it will take off like a raped ape, with an I4 if you're cruising at low engine speed and smack it, it'll go, but just take a little longer. Or any big cruiser.