France: Youths Riot in Streets over Retirement Age

101lifts2 · 10-21-2010, 10:39 PM

http://www.examiner.com/internationa...e-turn-violent

I guess the students not only want guaranteed jobs for life, but they don't want to work past 60. Hint....ur socialistic economy can't afford it.

Unrest in France: Youth take to streets, riots over retirement age turn violent
October 20th, 2010 1:58 am ET.Do you like this story?
Unrest in France: Youth take to streets, riots over retirement age turn violent

FRANCE -- A proposed bill raising retirement age from 60 to 62 has been met with great opposition, with masked youth joining in protests that have turned violent just outside of Paris and in the southeastern city of Lyon.

UPDATE: Violence has increased - click here for AP article.

The youth, dressed in black, torched cars, smashed storefronts, and threw up roadblocks Tuesday. They clashed with riot police across France as protests over raising retirement age took a radical turn.

Things were so bad that hundreds of flights were canceled.

Oil refinery strikes and blockages emptied the pumps at nearly a third of the nation’s gas stations leaving drivers desperate and searching for gas.

If the bill is approved it will raise the retirement age from 60 to 62 to prevent the pension system from going bankrupt as citizens live longer and a diminishing pool of young workers pay into the system.

Protesters want to stop this bill – unions claim the move would erode France’s near-sacred tradition of generous social benefits that include long vacations, contracts that make it hard for employers to lay off workers and a state-subsidized health care system – in favor of “American-style capitalism.”

The AP reported that some 1.1 million people joined 260 protest marches across France on Tuesday, according to the Interior Ministry, though trade unions put the figure at three times that.

Youth threw stones at police which prompted police to use teargas. One Associated Press photographer was knocked off his motorbike and punched by the youths.

The most violent clashes occurred in Lyon, where rampaging youth torched garbage cans and cars and overturned bus stations. Numerous shops were pillaged. A second AP photographer was slightly injured.

In the Mediterranean port city of Marseille a strike by garbage collectors left the streets buried in heaps of trash.

"Transport, the rubbish, the nurses, the teachers, the workers, the white collar, everyone who works, we should all be united. If there is no transport today, we're not all going to die from it," said Francoise Michelle, a 55-year-old Marseille resident.

The bill generated a series of nationwide protests that began in early September, and those protests have been largely peaceful.

Another highly unpopular labor bill proposed in 2006 was abandoned when similar protests by students took place.

President Nicolas Sarkozy vowed Tuesday to guarantee public order in the face of “troublemakers.” The Associated Press reported that the government announced a plan to pool gasoline stocks so that dry stations can be filled.

"There are people who want to work, the immense majority, and they cannot be deprived of gasoline," Sarkozy said.

Thursday students plan a day of mobilization with a demonstration in Paris hours before the Senate is to vote on the retirement measure.

"The government will continue to dislodge protesters blocking the fuel depots. ... No one has the right to take hostage an entire country, its economy and its jobs," Prime Minister Francois Fillon said after meeting with oil industry executives.

While street protests is nothing new in France, the current strife is particularly worrisome because it has touched the vital energy sector and is drawing often volatile youth into the mix.

Particle Man · 10-21-2010, 10:41 PM

"But I am Le Tired!"

"Well, have a nap.... THEN FIRE ZEE MISSILES!"

Trip · 10-21-2010, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man

"But I am Le Tired!"

"Well, have a nap.... THEN FIRE ZEE MISSILES!"

i love that cartoon

Dave · 10-22-2010, 09:05 AM

Hello peoples republic of haven

Homeslice · 10-22-2010, 09:34 AM

Morons....

But, Americans have the same mentality when it comes to pension/benefit issues.....

"Oh, we've always gotten it before, so it's our "right" to keep getting it!"

Kaneman · 10-22-2010, 10:43 AM

That would totally suck if people were assured they could have a decent retirement and not have to work 'til they died. Fuck people.

goof2 · 10-22-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Morons....

But, Americans have the same mentality when it comes to pension/benefit issues.....

"Oh, we've always gotten it before, so it's our "right" to keep getting it!"

Sure, and that is the reason politicians are afraid to go near Social Security and Medicare. Look at the stories being written about SS simply because there will be no cost of living increase next year as a result of the government saying their has been no inflation. Another example would be the treatment Bush's SS reform plan received and continues to receive.

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

That would totally suck if people were assured they could have a decent retirement and not have to work 'til they died. Fuck people.

What a horrendous state of affairs this is. After this change the average French citizen will only have 29.5 years to enjoy their state funded retirement instead of the current 31.5 years. Goddamn the French government for being unable to pay for more than three decades of "decent retirement".

Homeslice · 10-22-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2

Sure, and that is the reason politicians are afraid to go near Social Security and Medicare. Look at the stories being written about SS simply because there will be no cost of living increase next year as a result of the government saying their has been no inflation. Another example would be the treatment Bush's SS reform plan received and continues to receive.

Exactly. But people always try to claim inflation is constant

Papa_Complex · 10-22-2010, 01:37 PM

Typical of the young, to be lacking in math skills. If the retirement age is increased then old fuckers have to work longer, reducing the drain on Federal resources. That means by the time they retire, they might even be able to drop the age again. If the age of retirement doesn't change, then they will be paying higher taxes to cover the people who are no longer earning a wage.

Dumbasses.

goof2 · 10-22-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Typical of the young, to be lacking in math skills. If the retirement age is increased then old fuckers have to work longer, reducing the drain on Federal resources. That means by the time they retire, they might even be able to drop the age again. If the age of retirement doesn't change, then they will be paying higher taxes to cover the people who are no longer earning a wage.

Dumbasses.

Jeez, what is wrong with you. Don't you know money from the government is free? They are just being stingy about the whole thing. Those dirty bastards are practically working their citizens to death by only giving them an average of 29 years of retirement.

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101lifts2 WSB Champion Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R Posts: 5,570	France: Youths Riot in Streets over Retirement Age http://www.examiner.com/internationa...e-turn-violent I guess the students not only want guaranteed jobs for life, but they don't want to work past 60. Hint....ur socialistic economy can't afford it. Unrest in France: Youth take to streets, riots over retirement age turn violent October 20th, 2010 1:58 am ET.Do you like this story? Unrest in France: Youth take to streets, riots over retirement age turn violent FRANCE -- A proposed bill raising retirement age from 60 to 62 has been met with great opposition, with masked youth joining in protests that have turned violent just outside of Paris and in the southeastern city of Lyon. UPDATE: Violence has increased - click here for AP article. The youth, dressed in black, torched cars, smashed storefronts, and threw up roadblocks Tuesday. They clashed with riot police across France as protests over raising retirement age took a radical turn. Things were so bad that hundreds of flights were canceled. Oil refinery strikes and blockages emptied the pumps at nearly a third of the nation’s gas stations leaving drivers desperate and searching for gas. If the bill is approved it will raise the retirement age from 60 to 62 to prevent the pension system from going bankrupt as citizens live longer and a diminishing pool of young workers pay into the system. Protesters want to stop this bill – unions claim the move would erode France’s near-sacred tradition of generous social benefits that include long vacations, contracts that make it hard for employers to lay off workers and a state-subsidized health care system – in favor of “American-style capitalism.” The AP reported that some 1.1 million people joined 260 protest marches across France on Tuesday, according to the Interior Ministry, though trade unions put the figure at three times that. Youth threw stones at police which prompted police to use teargas. One Associated Press photographer was knocked off his motorbike and punched by the youths. The most violent clashes occurred in Lyon, where rampaging youth torched garbage cans and cars and overturned bus stations. Numerous shops were pillaged. A second AP photographer was slightly injured. In the Mediterranean port city of Marseille a strike by garbage collectors left the streets buried in heaps of trash. "Transport, the rubbish, the nurses, the teachers, the workers, the white collar, everyone who works, we should all be united. If there is no transport today, we're not all going to die from it," said Francoise Michelle, a 55-year-old Marseille resident. The bill generated a series of nationwide protests that began in early September, and those protests have been largely peaceful. Another highly unpopular labor bill proposed in 2006 was abandoned when similar protests by students took place. President Nicolas Sarkozy vowed Tuesday to guarantee public order in the face of “troublemakers.” The Associated Press reported that the government announced a plan to pool gasoline stocks so that dry stations can be filled. "There are people who want to work, the immense majority, and they cannot be deprived of gasoline," Sarkozy said. Thursday students plan a day of mobilization with a demonstration in Paris hours before the Senate is to vote on the retirement measure. "The government will continue to dislodge protesters blocking the fuel depots. ... No one has the right to take hostage an entire country, its economy and its jobs," Prime Minister Francois Fillon said after meeting with oil industry executives. While street protests is nothing new in France, the current strife is particularly worrisome because it has touched the vital energy sector and is drawing often volatile youth into the mix. __________________ Train Hard Ron Paul - 2012 Mark of Excellence GM

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Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Morons.... But, Americans have the same mentality when it comes to pension/benefit issues..... "Oh, we've always gotten it before, so it's our "right" to keep getting it!"