What Gear Should I Be In for These Corners

No Worries · 05-29-2008, 10:23 PM

I can get up to 50mph or more between these switchbacks on Lookout Mt., but the hairpin turns are 15mph. To come blasting out of the curve, especially going uphill, you have to be in first gear. Most riders unfamiliar to the road won't downshift to first before the curve. Then they find out it really is 15mph. You are leaned way over, you're in second gear, the engine is at idle, and you open the throttle and get bogged down.

Do you downshift to first in the curve, wait until you straighten up, or just give it more gas hoping the revs will increase sometime? I've done all three. Braking from 50 for the switchback is unnerving enough, but shifting down to first while blipping the throttle, leaning heavily, and looking up and around the curve adds to the thrill. Several times I wish I had a gear indicator.

Sport Rider magazine has an article on gear selection for curves: http://www.sportrider.com/ride/RSS/1...nge/index.html, but I think they confused horsepower peak with torque peak. I like being below the torque peak, and smoothly roll on the throttle when going quickly around a curve. Any wheelspin from too much torque would be like hitting sand in the corner.

NONE_too_SOFT · 05-29-2008, 10:25 PM

full suit of armor.

shit i dont like taking any corner that hard in first. too much of a chance of blippin the throttle, fuckin up the suspension, and sailing over the bars.

itgirl · 05-29-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT

full suit of armor.

that's the first thing that came to my mind when i read the title.

Trip · 05-29-2008, 10:36 PM

me likey

DLIT · 05-30-2008, 01:05 AM

If I get caught behind a slower rider mid-turn, I'll downshift so I won't get bogged down.

Dnyce · 05-30-2008, 01:12 AM

no help here, but that road looks sweet

i just found out over here highway 243 is sweet too

Mr Lefty · 05-30-2008, 04:21 AM

fuck I dunno... I probably wouldn't shift... can't remember what my bike will do in first... course she's geared down so probably like 35

Phenix_Rider · 05-30-2008, 08:21 AM

Is it just the camera angle, or is that first "U" (from the bottom) way off camber?

Those are really 15 mph actual? Look like second gear turns to me. Of course, my bike actually has some low end. But, depending on the grade, I might still get bogged down. Cutty's 1125R would be incredible there! Twins FTW

No Worries · 05-30-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by No Worries

Take a look at the hill slope between the two farthest switchbacks. This road is steep. Mountain riding is different from canyon riding, just like riding uphill is different from riding down. Even though the road is steep, not banked, and extremely tight, you have to have constant throttle through the curve.

Some riders come in too fast, hit the brakes and lose momentum in the curve, because they are so steep. That can often spell disaster. Much better to come in slow and go out fast. That's why I like to be in first gear. Insures a slow entry and fast exit.

One of the hardest maneuvers I've ever done is a U-turn on a steep, narrow street. These switchbacks are similar. You have to enter at 15mph, but depending on how leaned over the bike is, you can accelerate out smartly. By leaning way off the bike, the bike is more upright. That means I can start twisting the throttle sooner than a bike that is still leaned over.

And these are the lower switchbacks on Lookout Mountain. The upper ones are even tighter.

05-29-2008, 10:23 PM	#1
No Worries Keyboard Racer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mile High City Moto: Old Superbikes Posts: 1,016	What Gear Should I Be In for These Corners I can get up to 50mph or more between these switchbacks on Lookout Mt., but the hairpin turns are 15mph. To come blasting out of the curve, especially going uphill, you have to be in first gear. Most riders unfamiliar to the road won't downshift to first before the curve. Then they find out it really is 15mph. You are leaned way over, you're in second gear, the engine is at idle, and you open the throttle and get bogged down. Do you downshift to first in the curve, wait until you straighten up, or just give it more gas hoping the revs will increase sometime? I've done all three. Braking from 50 for the switchback is unnerving enough, but shifting down to first while blipping the throttle, leaning heavily, and looking up and around the curve adds to the thrill. Several times I wish I had a gear indicator. Sport Rider magazine has an article on gear selection for curves: http://www.sportrider.com/ride/RSS/1...nge/index.html, but I think they confused horsepower peak with torque peak. I like being below the torque peak, and smoothly roll on the throttle when going quickly around a curve. Any wheelspin from too much torque would be like hitting sand in the corner.

05-30-2008, 01:05 AM	#5
DLIT Clit Commander Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Las Vegas Moto: 2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale S Posts: 4,189	If I get caught behind a slower rider mid-turn, I'll downshift so I won't get bogged down. __________________ Dress for the crash. Not the ride.

05-30-2008, 01:12 AM	#6
Dnyce flyin high Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cali Moto: 10speed huffy w/cards in the spokes Posts: 2,318	no help here, but that road looks sweet i just found out over here highway 243 is sweet too __________________ "Racing Is Life, Everything Before and After is Just Waiting" Steve McQueen

05-29-2008, 10:25 PM	#2
NONE_too_SOFT Chopstix / \ Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Akron OH Moto: 03 CBR RR Posts: 5,350	full suit of armor. shit i dont like taking any corner that hard in first. too much of a chance of blippin the throttle, fuckin up the suspension, and sailing over the bars.

05-30-2008, 04:21 AM	#7
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	fuck I dunno... I probably wouldn't shift... can't remember what my bike will do in first... course she's geared down so probably like 35