Got some insider info...yet to prove it myself.

DLIT · 05-18-2009, 08:44 PM

It involves computers from a '08 and '09 R6, and swapping them. The one to benefit is the '09 R6 by having the '08 computer in it. This guy I know who owns a shop has a buddy that works for Graves and he leaked the swap news to him. So the shop owner had a guy with a '09 R6, ran it on the dyno, came in at 99rwhp. Simply put the '08 computer in and it came in at 105rwhp. A gain of 6.6 hp at the wheel!

So...long story short, I know another guy who runs a dealership and has this '08 R6 that they're pretty much never gonna sell (long story). it has 850 miles on it. So me, being persistent when it comes to hp gains (especially when they're free), popped the question about him letting me swap the '08 for my '09. He says yes! Sweet. Just got home from doing the swap, started the bike up and runs fine. I'll be riding it to work tomorrow to see if I notice anything. I should notice a little bit with a 6 hp increase, I'm not expecting anything significant, but it should be something.

Turns out Yamaha detuned the '09s because of people dying on motorcycles. I'll let you guys know if there's a difference tomorrow.

Quick281 · 05-18-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

Turns out Yamaha detuned the '09s because of people dying on motorcycles. I'll let you guys know if there's a difference tomorrow.

I am in no way doubting that a PCM swap won't increase power, but this being the reasoning seems absurd. Who at Yamaha thought that such a small detune would save lives? Sportbikes and saving lives can't be on the same side.

DLIT · 05-18-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Quick281

I am in no way doubting that a PCM swap won't increase power, but this being the reasoning seems absurd. Who at Yamaha thought that such a small detune would save lives? Sportbikes and saving lives can't be on the same side.

I hear ya.

racedoll · 05-18-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

So the shop owner had a guy with a '09 R6, ran it on the dyno, came in at 99rwhp. Simply put the '08 computer in and it came in at 105rwhp. A gain of 6.6 hp at the wheel!

Really? They are that low on horsepower? My 04 ZX6RR has 104. I thought mine was low compared to the new ones. I guess not.

As far as detuning them for safety. OK, it's similar to the govorner on a car but still. It is the responsibility of the person twisting the throttle.

DLIT · 05-18-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by racedoll

Really? They are that low on horsepower? My 04 ZX6RR has 104. I thought mine was low compared to the new ones. I guess not.

As far as detuning them for safety. OK, it's similar to the govorner on a car but still. It is the responsibility of the person twisting the throttle.

Dynos are different everywhere. it may be higher on the dyno that you took the Kawi to.

racedoll · 05-18-2009, 10:03 PM

Ah yes. I forgot about the calibration of them factoring into the numbers. Even still that seems low.

Mr Lefty · 05-19-2009, 10:28 AM

Interesting good score bro.

Retarded reasoning on yami's part if that's true.

DLIT · 05-19-2009, 07:20 PM

After riding to and from work today, I did feel something. The fact I got up to 165 indicated going into a strong head wind tells me something. Never felt a flat spot down low either. If anything, it felt better. I'm hoping to sell my helmet to get a power commander and get it custom mapped, so we'll see. Definitely not upset I made the swap.

racedoll · 05-20-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

After riding to and from work today, I did feel something. The fact I got up to 165 indicated going into a strong head wind tells me something. Never felt a flat spot down low either. If anything, it felt better. I'm hoping to sell my helmet to get a power commander and get it custom mapped, so we'll see. Definitely not upset I made the swap.

Selling the helmet to get a PC and more power doesn't seem quite right. I hope you have another helmet to wear once you have all this extra HP.

JoJoYZF · 05-20-2009, 11:58 PM

Hes got a thread somewhere about his new helmet already.

05-18-2009, 08:44 PM	#1
DLIT Clit Commander Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Las Vegas Moto: 2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale S Posts: 4,189	Got some insider info...yet to prove it myself. It involves computers from a '08 and '09 R6, and swapping them. The one to benefit is the '09 R6 by having the '08 computer in it. This guy I know who owns a shop has a buddy that works for Graves and he leaked the swap news to him. So the shop owner had a guy with a '09 R6, ran it on the dyno, came in at 99rwhp. Simply put the '08 computer in and it came in at 105rwhp. A gain of 6.6 hp at the wheel! So...long story short, I know another guy who runs a dealership and has this '08 R6 that they're pretty much never gonna sell (long story). it has 850 miles on it. So me, being persistent when it comes to hp gains (especially when they're free), popped the question about him letting me swap the '08 for my '09. He says yes! Sweet. Just got home from doing the swap, started the bike up and runs fine. I'll be riding it to work tomorrow to see if I notice anything. I should notice a little bit with a 6 hp increase, I'm not expecting anything significant, but it should be something. Turns out Yamaha detuned the '09s because of people dying on motorcycles. I'll let you guys know if there's a difference tomorrow. __________________ Dress for the crash. Not the ride.

05-19-2009, 07:20 PM	#8
DLIT Clit Commander Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Las Vegas Moto: 2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale S Posts: 4,189	After riding to and from work today, I did feel something. The fact I got up to 165 indicated going into a strong head wind tells me something. Never felt a flat spot down low either. If anything, it felt better. I'm hoping to sell my helmet to get a power commander and get it custom mapped, so we'll see. Definitely not upset I made the swap. __________________ Dress for the crash. Not the ride.

05-18-2009, 10:03 PM	#6
racedoll AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Moto: '04 Kawasaki ZX6RR Posts: 3,392	Ah yes. I forgot about the calibration of them factoring into the numbers. Even still that seems low.

05-19-2009, 10:28 AM	#7
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	Interesting good score bro. Retarded reasoning on yami's part if that's true.

05-20-2009, 11:58 PM	#10
JoJoYZF Bring on the Zombies! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cleveland Moto: 2000 Yamaha YZF600R Posts: 2,691	Hes got a thread somewhere about his new helmet already.