06-03-2009, 03:54 PM | #21 |
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06-03-2009, 03:57 PM | #22 |
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Hmmm... I'm not sure. If I lived with a woman with a kid, declared or not, you'd think that the kid would fall under her policy as the parent before it would fall under mine... One thing I'm sure of, BOTH ins co's will try their best to try and get out of this claim if they can!
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06-03-2009, 04:21 PM | #23 |
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My policy only covers licensed drivers that are at least 25 years old that aren't on my policy if I remember correctly.
The age thing sounds weird but I believe that's how it is written. |
06-03-2009, 04:38 PM | #24 |
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many times (not necesarily here) what happens is junior turns 16-17 and gets a license but no car. mom and dad "forget" to tell the insurance company they have gotten a license because they don't want to pay extra premium. that child is uninsured and not covered on any vehicle they drive.
my son costs me $1000 / yr just to ensure if he drives something it's covered. HE is added to my policy and can drive any of my vehicles as well as anyone elses under my insurance. |
06-03-2009, 04:49 PM | #25 | |
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06-03-2009, 05:31 PM | #26 |
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I don't know if this has already been said or not, so sorry if I am repeating someone else's post:
When my husband wrecked a friend's bike(so obviously not on his insurance) I called my insurance company to see what insurance is responsible. I was told that the owner of the vehicle's insurance must be used because the owner allowed my husband to ride, therefore, the owner is liable for what happens. The owner's insurance company paid for the damages and as far as I know, didn't give them any trouble over it either. |
06-03-2009, 08:46 PM | #27 |
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In insurance legalese, she's known as a "permissive user" since she had his permission to drive the car. He needs to get the policy out of the drawer and read it, especially the definition of an insured driver and the exclusions. If the insurance company contends there is no coverage, he deserves an explanation, including a cite to the specific policy language, in writing. Also, if she is a covered driver under her mom's policy, or has her own policy, then her or her mom's insurer should provide coverage for the incident.
Disclaimer -- I'm not a lawyer, just a lowly paralegal. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn one night. :-)
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06-03-2009, 09:32 PM | #28 | |
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06-03-2009, 10:01 PM | #29 |
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AFAIK... they can... but have the girl check with her insurance... I know with my policy... I'm covered for any vehicle I drive. (so I don't have to get extra coverge for rental vehicles...ect.)
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It really depends on the terms of the policy - some cheaper policies don't include coverage for other licensed drivers unless they're specifically listed on the policy. Policies like that are cheaper because they basically are reducing their liability of having to pay for an accident caused by another licensed driver. A lot depends on the state though (I'm not as familliar with those states' insurance laws). Some states don't allow the exclusion of permissive users (and it's the state where the person resides, not the state where the accident happens that determines this). They do have to provide citation of the specific language in the policy leading to the failure to cover the damages caused by the accident.
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