Israel Wants Missile Shield Money, JSF Tech To Not Oppose Saudi F-15 Sale

[Dave]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Go ahead and block the F-15(SG) sale.
EVEN IF they could get our Congress to kill a huge multi billion dollar deal (They ordered 70+ of em which is a pretty significant contract) all they will end up doing is either:
A: Order additional Typhoons
B: Go ahead with the French Rafael deal.

End result is the Boeing loses out on a lot of cash

Its always nice when Israel demands more money. Too bad they never pay back the loans we give em


They'd lose out on some of the strike capability they'd get with the F-15sg but both the Typhoon and Rafeal have decent enough strike capability.
Either way I don't think the Saudi's give their pilots enough flight time to hone their skills enough to be competitive with the Israeli's.

rafale is a sexy bitch. then again, dassault always has had good looking designs

[Homeslice]

Biggest reason Israel gets whatever they want is because US politicians are afraid of being labeled anti-semitic.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Biggest reason Israel gets whatever they want is because US politicians are afraid of being labeled anti-semitic.

There is also a Christian element it too. Some of these guys in congress are just batshit out there "end of days" types and Israel plays big in there "beliefs".


Someday, the holocaust card will no longer be acceppted and they will have to pay for stuff with at least a Visa Card or Mastercard. I can't really blame the Israelis for taking advantage of the United States as I'd hope we'd do the same if the situtation were reversed.

[KSGregman]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Careful.......If you critique Israel then you are anti-semitic.

Too long have the Israelis been allowed to use this "if you ever speak against us you are anti-semitic" get out of jail free card.

If the Semitic position is untenable or morally wrong, like building illegal housing in Palestinian areas or maintaining the prison camp that is Gaza, then yes...critique at will and ignore all self serving cries of "anti-semitism."

[pauldun170]

My experience is that American Jewish folk can't seperate the nation from the religion when you speak about Israel.

[midwesternerr]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Go ahead and block the F-15(SG) sale.
EVEN IF they could get our Congress to kill a huge multi billion dollar deal

Its always nice when Israel demands more money. Too bad they never pay back the loans we give em


They'd lose out on some of the strike capability they'd get with the F-15sg but both the Typhoon and Rafeal have decent enough strike capability.
Either way I don't think the Saudi's give their pilots enough flight time to hone their skills enough to be competitive with the Israeli's.

F-15SG is the singapore variant, theres an easy solution for israel, buy some of your own! Hell, buy some silent eagles too!