05-12-2008, 11:39 AM | #21 | |
DefenderOfTheBuelliverse
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GP shift is completely unneccessary on a Vtwin. I only need 1 gear...
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05-12-2008, 02:11 PM | #22 |
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Until you are dragging your toe and shift knob while trying to upshift through a corner, there is no need.
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05-12-2008, 02:16 PM | #23 |
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Can't knock it til you try it.
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05-12-2008, 05:26 PM | #24 | |
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I'll try it... when I get a chance... but I know I don't NEED it... I ride just fine the normal way... |
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05-12-2008, 05:30 PM | #25 |
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05-13-2008, 01:07 AM | #26 |
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On the roads I ride on, I can stall an upshift. And my bikes redline well below 10K. But I can't stall a downshift. It has to be immediate. All the blind corners require slow in and fast out. A tap on the gearshift puts me in a lower gear and into the meat of the powerband.
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05-13-2008, 01:08 AM | #27 | |
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I'm thinking at the track it's gonna be 2-3... maybe 4 on the straights. |
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05-13-2008, 09:43 AM | #28 | |
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Thats how it was for me at Pocono. You could get around the track in 3rd gear. I hit 4th on the back straight.
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05-13-2008, 10:25 AM | #29 |
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Couple things...
The Norton is 1up 3down - RIGHT SIDE shift. It's complicated and difficult, and at least it isn't suicide shift. On both the 748 and 998 the shift lever is REALLY far down below the rearset, but I haven't ever noticed an issue. In fact, my foot is almost straight up and down to slip it under there. But then, the rearsets are in a high position. Maybe that's it...
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05-13-2008, 04:04 PM | #30 |
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The original reason for GP shift is that the old narrow power band bikes sometimes needed an upshift while leaned over. Impossible to do while leaned over on the left side since you could not get your foot under the nearly dragging, no ground clearance bikes of old...It became all the rage since you could continue your drive out of the corner without altering your line.
These days lean angles have grown so great with tire technology that it is really a no brainer, but since engines rev out so much longer you really can carry one gear thru most corners kinda eliminating the need. I use GP shift although I can go back and forth relatively easily. The reason I like it is that it seems easier for me to bang away clutchless upshifts while pushing down on the lever. Also allows me to click up and out of a too quickly climbing wheelie...
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