motogp fun with numbers. the yamaha m1

[Dave]

did vale really fix it? or is his skill thus that hes simply gathering credit? removing his talent from the field paints some interesting pictures.

carb'ed five valve screamer

FI five valve screamer

fi four valve crossplane

fi four valve crossplane

[smileyman]

Burgess fixed it with Rossi's endorsement via very willing Yamaha engineers. They swallowed their pride and developed it exactly as the super duo asked, and reaped the rewards...

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Burgess fixed it with Rossi's endorsement via very willing Yamaha engineers. They swallowed their pride and developed it exactly as the super duo asked, and reaped the rewards...

Right but look at some of the mortals. Checha went backwards, no one else even showed up until edwards got there, and he was probably just happy to be away from playing marshmellow on the rs3. I'm not even counting max who took a credible 2nd on his one year with the bike.

Even then, can we really credit vr for the crossplane layout if jb made the suggestion from things he learned crewing for doohan? Things that make you go hmm

[smileyman]

I certainly would not credit Rossi for the cross plane. The feedback that inspired Burgess to seek a different solution from Yamaha definitely, and of course he did ride the thing they built.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

I certainly would not credit Rossi for the cross plane. The feedback that inspired Burgess to seek a different solution from Yamaha definitely, and of course he did ride the thing they built.

Heh to hear some of his fans on crash he dug raw minerals from the earth and forged it into a championship winning bike with his bare hands. Just no reasoning with those people.

I can't wait to see him go to superbikes. You know, where actual racing occurs I'll bet he gets a ben spies style "welcome to sbk mate" bump off track on turn one

[smileyman]

Rossi knows the score in WSBK. He'll go to F1 or Rally when his Duc contract is over...

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Rossi knows the score in WSBK. He'll go to F1 or Rally when his Duc contract is over...

Skurred?

[smileyman]

After dueling 14-18 riders, some of which are on inferior equipment, and then going to a series with 28-34 entries on like equipment, fueled by the desire to prove their mettle side by side with his greatness...Wouldnt you be??

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

After dueling 14-18 riders, some of which are on inferior equipment, and then going to a series with 28-34 entries on like equipment, fueled by the desire to prove their mettle side by side with his greatness...Wouldnt you be??

Mmm especially since his old foe is running the roost. Don't get me wrong, much as id love to see him scuffed up I really don't want him coming over. Sbk doesn't need the post race antics. Bad enough lorenzo picked it up

[anthonyk]

I'd say it was a combination of both. A bit of development and a crapload of skill resulted in those first couple of titles. Continued development over the years resulted in Yamaha taking several constructor's championships.