Way to let down the side guys

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Doing so will probably make the NSA red-flag my IP address

I guess you don't want to google Irv Rubin either then.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Good debate, tough call but I gotta side with Trip on this one. Not that I'm horribly offended that they ran Dan Coulter off, but I think it would've been more productive to let her speak and challenge her in fair debate...or something of the sort.

Definitely agreed, but "fair debate" is tough to obtain with someone who flings words like a monkey tosses shit from a tree, especially when the words are worth worse than that shit would be. As mentioned previously her response to a Muslim student who suggested that she didn't have a magic carpet to use, as Coulter had suggested, instead of riding in planes, was to tell her to try a camel instead.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Definitely agreed, but "fair debate" is tough to obtain with someone who flings words like a monkey tosses shit from a tree, especially when the words are worth worse than that shit would be. As mentioned previously her response to a Muslim student who suggested that she didn't have a magic carpet to use, as Coulter had suggested, instead of riding in planes, was to tell her to try a camel instead.

And that incident now portrays her as a villain. Whereas the student's actions in this case make her look like a victim.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

And that incident now portrays her as a villain. Whereas the student's actions in this case make her look like a victim.

More like a coward, since it was the organizers who scuttled the event and she hadn't come within miles of the campus.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

More like a coward, since it was the organizers who scuttled the event and she hadn't come within miles of the campus.

But she can easily spin it to be a violation of her free-speech, etc. etc. etc.

I say let Coulter take the stage and make a monumental ass of herself. Be sure to record it. Colleges should plan for this in advance, put their best debaters in the front row, and have them peaceably call her on her bullshit.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

But she can easily spin it to be a violation of her free-speech, etc. etc. etc.

I say let Coulter take the stage and make a monumental ass of herself. Be sure to record it. Colleges should plan for this in advance, put their best debaters in the front row, and have them peaceably call her on her bullshit.

As I said, so do I.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Take a look at the entry for Ernst Zundel on Wikipedia

Sounds like a complete deutsche-bag but I don't see anything that should be criminal with the exception of overstaying his visa. That he was deported only 2 weeks after he was arrested for it indicates he managed to garner some "special attention" from authorities, but he had to fuck up before they could do anything about it.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

Sounds like a complete deutsche-bag but I don't see anything that should be criminal with the exception of overstaying his visa. That he was deported only 2 weeks after he was arrested for it indicates he managed to garner some "special attention" from authorities, but he had to fuck up before they could do anything about it.

I was talking about the sections that refer to the fire and attempted bombing at his house, and the attempted break-in involving JDL members. Unfortunately any stories regarding the issue that would have made it to local papers have long since been archived so I can't confirm what is in Wikipedia without a trip to a library, that would involve an entire day of searching.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

I was talking about the sections that refer to the fire and attempted bombing at his house, and the attempted break-in involving JDL members. Unfortunately any stories regarding the issue that would have made it to local papers have long since been archived so I can't confirm what is in Wikipedia without a trip to a library, that would involve an entire day of searching.

I skimmed the entry and completely missed that part. I not sure how credible the claims are though. Wikipedia has entries for both JDL people accused of trying to break in to his house. Neither of their entries mention anything about the incident. The links to the claimed source material for the arson and attempted break in are both dated years after the incidents were supposed to have occurred as well.

I wouldn't go looking for archived material either. There is plenty of credible information readily available indicating that the JDL are bad guys.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

I skimmed the entry and completely missed that part. I not sure how credible the claims are though. Wikipedia has entries for both JDL people accused of trying to break in to his house. Neither of their entries mention anything about the incident. The links to the claimed source material for the arson and attempted break in are both dated years after the incidents were supposed to have occurred as well.

I wouldn't go looking for archived material either. There is plenty of credible information readily available indicating that the JDL are bad guys.

I think that the information on the Zundel Wikipedia entry is reflected on his personal website too, so it could be a case of "entry fixing." That's why I specifically mentioned that I couldn't confirm; I don't trust it.

As you say, there are enough other credible sources. Some of them talk about the activities of that American JDL member mentioned in the Zundel entry, who appears to be rather infamous. I was just familiar with that page, since I had done some recent searches as a result of Zundel's release.