Texas to allow students and professors to carry firearms

[z06boy]

I'm pro gun but was on the fence with this one when I first read the thread title. As some have said...I too was all for the faculty and security personal being armed but wasn't too sure about the students.

HOWEVER since it's been pointed out that it's the same people that would carry elsewhere because they would have to have their Conceal Carry Permit...this swayed me to vote...all for it.

[nhgunnut]

First as someone who is decidedly pro gun I have to vote good. If someone can get a concealed carry permit going to college should not deprive them of that right. On the other hand if you are intoxicated and carrying your permit should be suspended period. I work in a corrections center and while seldom articulated as such, it is clear that violent criminals regard "Gun Free Zones" as Low risk Victim pools. There is simply no question in my mind that an Armed Society is a Polite Society.

[L8 Braker]

For anyone saying this will be a bad idea, let me ask...

When is the last time you read about a professor that shot up his students?...Now, when is the last time you read about a professor that gave his life trying to help his students when a gunman had invaded their classroom?...The same question and answer can be asked about the students involved in these situations...

Simply put, this law would make these schools LESS LIKELY to be the target of a madman's deadly assault...For me, that's a win for the good guys, and I am 1000% in support of it...

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by L8 Braker

For anyone saying this will be a bad idea, let me ask...

When is the last time you read about a professor that shot up his students?

Which is why I said it's a good idea for the Administration, but perhaps not the students.

[Papa_Complex]

As someone who has worked in a university for the past 13 years, I think that this is a monumentally stupid idea.

[marko138]

I'm for it.

[pauldun170]

As someone who does not live in Texas and does not attend university I think this is a win win.

If nothing happens then it will not make the news and it doesn't effect me.
If a student gets drunk and accidentally shoots another student then we all get to point fingers and go "look at those stupid texans being texan again....stupid texans.....lol"
If a school shooting occurs and some student kills the gunman, we will all just say "Well thats Texas...they are always doing shit like that"

I expect more pics of topless texas coeds holding guns to appear on various sites across the web.
Win

[ericr]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Which is why I said it's a good idea for the Administration, but perhaps not the students.

Well, lets see here. I'm going back to school in April, I've had a carry permit since I was 21, I will be 45 in April and I am ex military. Care to revise your statement?

I'll wager I have more experience and training with firearms than 99.8% of college administrators, and probably did when I was 21 and first got my permit since I'd been shooting since I could hold a gun.

And to support your statement, find me all the news reports of 21 year olds that just got their carry permits that have been in firearms related crimes or incidents other than self defense.

[ericr]

Originally Posted by nhgunnut

First as someone who is decidedly pro gun I have to vote good. If someone can get a concealed carry permit going to college should not deprive them of that right. On the other hand if you are intoxicated and carrying your permit should be suspended period. I work in a corrections center and while seldom articulated as such, it is clear that violent criminals regard "Gun Free Zones" as Low risk Victim pools. There is simply no question in my mind that an Armed Society is a Polite Society.

In GA, it is illegal to consume alcohol while carrying a concealed weapon, you go to jail for that. I think all states have that in their CC laws. I agree with the rest of your post too

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by ericr

Well, lets see here. I'm going back to school in April, I've had a carry permit since I was 21, I will be 45 in April and I am ex military. Care to revise your statement?

I'll wager I have more experience and training with firearms than 99.8% of college administrators, and probably did when I was 21 and first got my permit since I'd been shooting since I could hold a gun.

That's ducky. It's not your fucking house. I don't care how fucking old you are.

In the old west (gun ettiquette 101), you'd have to surrender (check) your gun to the establishment you went into, if they (the folks who's place it was) decided that the environment was too uncontrolled for firearms, or simply didn't want the responsibility under their roof (as in a saloon).

I say a big bunch of young, testosterone filled emo assholes drinking, competing, and trying to impress women in one place is an even worse idea when you add firearms. It's been proven that younger people lack impulse control.

Much like a saloon full of grown men is likely to have some problems once some of the patrons become more "lubricated", as not all people are happy drunks, the proprietors would do well to take measures to check guns at the door.

Administrators run the place. It's their house. They should have the guns. Arm even the fucking janitor...but the students? No.

No exception for you, Mr. old guy, sorry. It's still not your fucking house.