McCain is a genius: VP pick

[Vettezilla (Impala Balko)]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

playing devils advocate... but if that embryo will result in a human if not aborted... at what point is it not a life? how is it not murder? it's killing a life before it begins

look at it this way... if you place a dam just before the city or way up the river... it still stops the water from reach'n the city... how does it matter where or when you do it?

It all matters on what your oppinion is on the matter on when it turns into a life... Pro Choice says any thing after 3 months or if the quality of life of the unborn is compromised (aka Mental retardation) it can be aborted late term... Pro Life says any kind of abortion is murder and the Bible says Masturbation and Premarital sex is murder because sex should only be used to procreate.

[Vettezilla (Impala Balko)]

Originally Posted by Dave

o Do you really think id attempt to change your mind when its obviously so personal to you? if you lived closer id toss you a biscuit

Why are you trying to be an internet hero... If you want to "toss me a biscuit" Jersey isnt too far away tough guy.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by Vettezilla (Impala Balko)

It all matters on what your oppinion is on the matter on when it turns into a life... Pro Choice says any thing after 3 months or if the quality of life of the unborn is compromised (aka Mental retardation) it can be aborted late term... Pro Life says any kind of abortion is murder and the Bible says Masturbation and Premarital sex is murder because sex should only be used to procreate.

Sex better be premarital because I can tell you that there is NO postmarital sex at all.

[Vettezilla (Impala Balko)]

Originally Posted by Rider

Sex better be premarital because I can tell you that there is NO postmarital sex at all.

bwahahahahahha..... So I have heard man I cant wait till my Fiance and I to set a date.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Vettezilla (Impala Balko)

It all matters on what your oppinion is on the matter on when it turns into a life... Pro Choice says any thing after 3 months or if the quality of life of the unborn is compromised (aka Mental retardation) it can be aborted late term... Pro Life says any kind of abortion is murder and the Bible says Masturbation and Premarital sex is murder because sex should only be used to procreate.

all I'm saying is that they have their beliefs just like you do. This country was founded with belief in the bible... and I think 80% (think that's the last stat I heard) of the country believes in the bible and God. so catering to the religious beliefs is something that's been done since this country was founded... that's why there are blue laws still in effect in parts of the country...

I personally think it's the woman's right to choose... but I think it should be limited to life treating and rape cases... if it was consensual... sorry... your ass opened your legs...

the guys get no say IMO

[Vettezilla (Impala Balko)]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

all I'm saying is that they have their beliefs just like you do. This country was founded with belief in the bible... and I think 80% (think that's the last stat I heard) of the country believes in the bible and God. so catering to the religious beliefs is something that's been done since this country was founded... that's why there are blue laws still in effect in parts of the country...

I personally think it's the woman's right to choose... but I think it should be limited to life treating and rape cases... if it was consensual... sorry... your ass opened your legs...

the guys get no say IMO

Actually I believe this country was founded on the belief that you could be free to choose what ever religion you want to wheather its Christianity, Budist, Jewdism, Muslim, Aethest, and etc.... that is why there was a Separation of Church and State aka the First Amendment.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Vettezilla (Impala Balko)

Actually I believe this country was founded on the belief that you could be free to choose what ever religion you want to wheather its Christianity, Budist, Jewdism, Muslim, Aethest, and etc.... that is why there was a Separation of Church and State aka the First Amendment.

but look at our pledge of alegance... our money... and many of the laws... all have religious ties... not to one religion... but to SOME sort of religion.

[ceo012384]

Originally Posted by Vettezilla (Impala Balko)

that is why there was a Separation of Church and State aka the First Amendment.

Where do you really see that?

The church and state are separated in that the church is not literally involved in the govt for the most part... but the fundamentals of the entire country were based on religious beliefs/morals... they are two very separate and different things.

Have we ever had a non-christian president? Cmon.

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

but look at our pledge of alegance... our money... and many of the laws... all have religious ties...

This thread is a slippery slope...

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by ceo012384

This thread is a slippery slope...

yeah.... yeah it is...

[Vettezilla (Impala Balko)]

Originally Posted by ceo012384

Where do you really see that?

The church and state are separated in that the church is not literally involved in the govt for the most part... but the fundamentals of the entire country were based on religious beliefs/morals... they are two very separate and different things.

Have we ever had a non-christian president? Cmon.





This thread is a slippery slope...

havent you taken a history class it clearly states it in the Constitution about separation of church and state.

The founding fathers originaly came over to escape Religous persecution so they would have the right to chose their own religion. Politicians cant and shouldnt cram religion down your throat.

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

but look at our pledge of alegance... our money... and many of the laws... all have religious ties... not to one religion... but to SOME sort of religion.

and there is always debates about that too.