Malories Law...

[anthonyk]

It's all pretty stupid, for sure (and I'll be writing my senator). But it's the "or" between sections 1 and 2 that's important. You can carry a passenger if you meet all the criteria in 1, or if your passenger meets one of the criteria in 2.

Sec. 545.4161. OPERATION OF SPORT BIKE. (a) In addition to
the requirements and prohibitions under Section 545.416, an
operator may not carry another person on a sport bike unless the
sport bike is designed to carry more than one person and:

(1) the operator:
(A) is at least 18 years of age; and
(B) has had a Class M license for at least two
years;

or

(2) the other person:
(A) is at least 18 years of age and holds a Class
M license; or
(B) is a motorcycle operator training and safety
course instructor certified under Chapter 662.

(b) An operator of a sport bike shall ensure that a
passenger on the sport bike complies with all department
regulations relating to motorcycle safety.

[derf]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

It's all pretty stupid, for sure (and I'll be writing my senator). But it's the "or" between sections 1 and 2 that's important. You can carry a passenger if you meet all the criteria in 1, or if your passenger meets one of the criteria in 2.

point taken, I guess I missed the OR part. But that doesnt make sense at all, the rider already has to have an M endorsement, why require the passenger to have a liscense if the rider doesnt, seems kinda stupid to me.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Why would a person who can ride their own, want to be a passenger?

Uma does it sometimes, but it's abnormal for her or anybody else.

Originally Posted by derf

point taken, I guess I missed the OR part. But that doesnt make sense at all, the rider already has to have an M endorsement, why require the passenger to have a liscense if the rider doesnt, seems kinda stupid to me.

so you can learn to ride with an instructor riding pillion to "guide" you. Not many places still teach riding like that (and not a lot of people willing to do so either) but it works at the track...

[derf]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

so you can learn to ride with an instructor riding pillion to "guide" you. Not many places still teach riding like that (and not a lot of people willing to do so either) but it works at the track...

ride pillion to someone who doesnt know how to ride? screw that, thats just plain stupid

[fujimoh]

Originally Posted by derf

point taken, I guess I missed the OR part. But that doesnt make sense at all, the rider already has to have an M endorsement, why require the passenger to have a liscense if the rider doesnt, seems kinda stupid to me.

Personally, I think the intent of the law is to keep Jonny Squid from buying his turbo 'busa for his first bike, stopping by Malorie's house on his way home to take her for a ride, and ends up killing her

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by fujimoh

Personally, I think the intent of the law is to keep Jonny Squid from buying his turbo 'busa for his first bike, stopping by Malorie's house on his way home to take her for a ride, and ends up killing her

Thing is, other bikes that my not really be sport bikes are "defined" as such which is pointless; in fact, defining any kind of specific motorcycle is just as pointless. Someone has just as much of a chance of getting tossed off the back of Fat Mike's new Softtail Delux as they do a Turbo 'Busa.

[fujimoh]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Thing is, other bikes that my not really be sport bikes are "defined" as such which is pointless; in fact, defining any kind of specific motorcycle is just as pointless. Someone has just as much of a chance of getting tossed off the back of Fat Mike's new Softtail Delux as they do a Turbo 'Busa.

I agree, but in the minds of the average citizen, when Fat Mike dumps his boat anchor, it is just an accident. But when some hopped up, drug crazed, adrenaline junkie drops his crotch rocket, it is major media news and requires legislation

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by fujimoh

I agree, but in the minds of the average citizen, when Fat Mike dumps his boat anchor, it is just an accident. But when some hopped up, drug crazed, adrenaline junkie drops his crotch rocket, it is major media news and requires legislation

Exactly. This bill makes no sense and is just designed to give riders one more thing to be hastled about and to take up space and make sheeple happy.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Thing is, other bikes that my not really be sport bikes are "defined" as such which is pointless; in fact, defining any kind of specific motorcycle is just as pointless. Someone has just as much of a chance of getting tossed off the back of Fat Mike's new Softtail Delux as they do a Turbo 'Busa.

the insurance companies like to classify them as such so they can bang you on higher rates.

[ericr]

What's wrong with having handholds on a sportbike?