Military fatalities...

[the chi]

Originally Posted by PhiSig1071

I think a lot of it has to do with mindset. Once you've dealt with insurgents, IED's, and ambushes your perception of "dangerous" is somewhat skewed. I would imagine it would take some time for the soldiers to readjust and realize that a motorcycle will kill you just as quickly as a bullet if you do not respect it.

I think there was actually an article published reflecting this very opinion. there was a large rash of young military men that died last year almost immediately upon returning to the states. I think the interviews conducted were basically the guys trying to get the adrenaline rush they didnt have back in the states, and with the skewed perception after spending so much time on the front line, they were basically trying to find some other way to retain what they viewed as "normal" after their wartime experiences.

[PhiSig1071]

Originally Posted by The Chi

I think there was actually an article published reflecting this very opinion. there was a large rash of young military men that died last year almost immediately upon returning to the states. I think the interviews conducted were basically the guys trying to get the adrenaline rush they didnt have back in the states, and with the skewed perception after spending so much time on the front line, they were basically trying to find some other way to retain what they viewed as "normal" after their wartime experiences.

It's a shame, but it's true. One of my ex girlfriends was an MP that had done a tour in Iraq, and she had issues with PTSD, and I think this is almost a form of that.

Personally, I think the main reason that we have problems like this and PTSD is because of the rapid transition soldiers have now that they didn't in the past. Now, and in Vietnam, soldiers go rather quickly from the front line home without adequate time to adjust. In WWII it took months for soldiers to get home, instead of going right from combat to a helicopter ride to a rear base and immediately onto a jet home they had to march back from the front line, wait to get billeted on a ship, then spend a few weeks on a ship coming home. That gave them time to readjust from a combat mindset to a non-combat mindset, instead of having to do it almost virtually overnight.

[byron12]

Originally Posted by PhiSig1071

It's a shame, but it's true. One of my ex girlfriends was an MP that had done a tour in Iraq, and she had issues with PTSD, and I think this is almost a form of that.

Personally, I think the main reason that we have problems like this and PTSD is because of the rapid transition soldiers have now that they didn't in the past. Now, and in Vietnam, soldiers go rather quickly from the front line home without adequate time to adjust. In WWII it took months for soldiers to get home, instead of going right from combat to a helicopter ride to a rear base and immediately onto a jet home they had to march back from the front line, wait to get billeted on a ship, then spend a few weeks on a ship coming home. That gave them time to readjust from a combat mindset to a non-combat mindset, instead of having to do it almost virtually overnight.

You also have to keep in mind they didn't diagnose any one with ptsd back then that doesn't mean it didn't exist. Hell the first documented motorcycle hooligans were a bunch of WWII vets that got kicked out the AMA for raising to much hell at AMA events...

[Dave]

Originally Posted by The Chi

I think there was actually an article published reflecting this very opinion. there was a large rash of young military men that died last year almost immediately upon returning to the states. I think the interviews conducted were basically the guys trying to get the adrenaline rush they didnt have back in the states, and with the skewed perception after spending so much time on the front line, they were basically trying to find some other way to retain what they viewed as "normal" after their wartime experiences.

thanks rae, i should really read the entire threads before i say things lol

Originally Posted by PhiSig1071

It's a shame, but it's true. One of my ex girlfriends was an MP that had done a tour in Iraq, and she had issues with PTSD, and I think this is almost a form of that.

Personally, I think the main reason that we have problems like this and PTSD is because of the rapid transition soldiers have now that they didn't in the past. Now, and in Vietnam, soldiers go rather quickly from the front line home without adequate time to adjust. In WWII it took months for soldiers to get home, instead of going right from combat to a helicopter ride to a rear base and immediately onto a jet home they had to march back from the front line, wait to get billeted on a ship, then spend a few weeks on a ship coming home. That gave them time to readjust from a combat mindset to a non-combat mindset, instead of having to do it almost virtually overnight.

it gets far easier after the first couple times. just like anything else. between the fireblade and paintball im pretty happy these days