![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#11 | |
sergeant hatred
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ottawa
Moto: The bus
Posts: 2,723
|
![]() Quote:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...n/all/Overview
__________________
My wife was afraid of the dark...then she saw me naked and now she's afraid of the light. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#12 | |
AMA Supersport
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Odessa, TX
Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird
Posts: 4,931
|
![]() Quote:
The fact is that it just isn't that hard to rehab an abused or aggressive canine. The problem is that organizations like the ASPCA strongly denounce the methods that are successfully used for that type of rehab thus making their mission statement irrelevant. You don't adopt out an animal with a bad past to some old lady. You adopt him out to a strong guy that doesn't have kids and has the patience to fix the dog. It really is not that hard to do.
__________________
1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#13 | ||
Forum Coach
![]() Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: GA
Moto: 2006 GSXR 600
Posts: 7,419
|
![]() Quote:
Quote:
1) The ASPCA is responsible for the animal. They cant transfer it to another organization, they would still be responsible for that animal being "in society" if something were to occur which would lead to bad publicity and repercussions for their decision to allow a "menace" out. 2) They dont have the resources to screen adopters to the level you suggest. They deal with hundreds and thousands of animals, and making sure a pet goes to a strong male dominant owner who has the skills to deal with a "trouble" animal isnt remotely reasonable. As for how hard it may to rehab a trouble animal, thats a matter of opinion and personal thought. Spending 6 months rehabbing a troubled and aggressive animal when you have 200 more that dont need that level of attention isnt logical. Have you ever tried to adopt out a GOOD animal? One without behavioral problems? It can be near impossible. They dont have the resources to keep on a problem when its hard enough to get homes for loving gentle animals that can be placed anywhere. I dont disagree, but at the same time, the ASPCA has a system that works. They do what they have to do to best take care of all the animals, not single individuals that are in essence too damaged to easily rehab. Should they have given Oreo some time and transferred her, especially in light of the publicity they got on her? IMPO, of course. But thats not how it works guys. Havent you watched animal police? Animals that show an intolerable level of aggression and and have problems are put down. Thats how it works. Several states have laws that certain breeds are put down immediately without the benefit of working with them. Its sucks, but thats how it is. Unless you want to become independently wealthy, get the rules changed so you can take the animals and the responsibility to deal with them, the ASPCA (typically) does the best it can. |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#14 | |
sergeant hatred
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ottawa
Moto: The bus
Posts: 2,723
|
![]() Quote:
That is a ridiculous statement.
__________________
My wife was afraid of the dark...then she saw me naked and now she's afraid of the light. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#15 |
AMA Supersport
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Odessa, TX
Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird
Posts: 4,931
|
![]()
That's not true. The local animal shelter has no responsibilty whatsoever over the dogs I adopt from there. Once I sign the papers they are mine and I am 100% responsible for whatever happens from then on.
More than that though, its just not that hard to rehab an aggressive and abused dog if you take the slightest bit of time to learn something about it, which shelters and the ASPCA does not. They go with the "experts" without putting any of the methods in use in the real world. How hard is to to tell if a potential adopter is a little old lady or a dude with no kids? Again, not that hard. We're talking about a minimal amount of effort here.
__________________
1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#16 | |
Forum Coach
![]() Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: GA
Moto: 2006 GSXR 600
Posts: 7,419
|
![]() Quote:
The ASPCA gets an animal they cant adopt due to "issues". They sign it over to another organization. This organization works with it, or releases it to its new owner. Dog reverts or isnt rehabilitated and attacks or accidently turns on someone. New owner or victim sues owner, and organization that gave the dog PLUS the ASPCA as being ultimately responsible for letting a "bad" animal leave their premises. Even if they signed legal documents, as ridiculous as things are with lawsuits these days, they could be held liable for the dog in the end. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#17 | |
AMA Supersport
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Odessa, TX
Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird
Posts: 4,931
|
![]() Quote:
__________________
1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#18 | |
Forum Coach
![]() Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: GA
Moto: 2006 GSXR 600
Posts: 7,419
|
![]() Quote:
No babe, you're not. What is minimal effort to you isnt to an organization that has hundred of animals to care for. What is minimal time and effort to you, isnt to another person. (The adopter) Case in point, idiots who have a hard to train pet and put it down versus take the time and effort to train it. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#19 | |
Forum Coach
![]() Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: GA
Moto: 2006 GSXR 600
Posts: 7,419
|
![]() Quote:
![]() You guys do realize I am playing devil's advocate right? Im looking at all angles, not just the one from my heart strings. ![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#20 | |
AMA Supersport
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Odessa, TX
Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird
Posts: 4,931
|
![]() Quote:
__________________
1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
Bookmarks |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|