Reasons we ride liter bikes-add yours or ones you've heard - Page 10

Dave · 11-15-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Cause the salesman actually made you think that your penis was bigger than it really is.

cause a 600 couldnt pull my massive dong

Homeslice · 11-15-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Oh and what's this about the engine having to be "wider"? Displacement is determined by cylindrical volume which is calculated using cylinder radius and height. Who's to say that the 1000 motor isn't slightly taller? Okay, I'll increase my cylinder bores by 1mm in width and 7mm in height (approx) what's wrong with that? :

Anytime you increase the stroke, the crank would need longer throws, which means it would need bigger counterwieghts as well

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Basically, it's a bullshit statement to say that an 1000 can't enter a corner just as fast as a 600 in every case... I guarantee that my 1000 can enter a corner just as fast or faster than oh a CBR600F2 with the same rider on both...

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Now let's see what happens if it's a modern-day 600, not a 15-yr old one

Smittie61984 · 11-15-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HokieDNA01

HAHA I never said a 1000 can't enter a corner as fast as a 600. I ment it as a rider that does not have the "balls" to carry speed through a corner can always ham fist the 1000 on the way back out to make up for lost time. I see it all the time.

Try Florida Sportbike week at the Gap. I was there and it was epic awesome with some epic fails.

Amber Lamps · 11-15-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Anytime you increase the stroke, the crank would need longer throws, which means it would need bigger counterwieghts as well

Now let's see what happens if it's a modern-day 600, not a 15-yr old one

What will happen? Why can't a 1000 enter a corner as fast as a 600? I really don't get it...

Smittie61984 · 11-15-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

What will happen? Why can't a 1000 enter a corner as fast as a 600? I really don't get it...

Are you being very technical about the "enter" phrase? If so then technically the Hyabusa could enter a corner faster than any stock bike out there. Not saying the outcome would be good.

I'm no expert by any means but I'd guess if you put Rossi on a GSXR600 and a GSXR1000 (Of the same year) and he was up at Deal's Gap (and supposing fear of crashing was about the same as a track). I feel that he'd be faster on the GSXR600 since I believe they have a shorter wheelbase, lighter weight, etc.

But I'm also sure that Rossi and a handful of people in the world would be able to exploit those differences.

pauldun170 · 11-15-2009, 10:39 PM

I don't know...
I started riding when bikes had a bit more "heft" to em.

Whipping around a 600 doesn't feel that much different to me than whipping around a 1000 of equal weight. A few ounces between a 600's inner workings and a 1000's inner workings?
My ass isn't that sensitive and I'm not racing competitively.

101lifts2 · 11-16-2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

Engine speed is directly related to the speed that the internal components are spinning. And the faster you spin it, the stronger the gyroscopic forces are.

Put 50lb weight on the end of a rope and spin it at 50rpm. Now put a 40lb weight and spin it at 100rpm. The 40lb weight WILL have a higher centrifugal, and gyroscopic effect. (same length ropes btw).

I understand this, but an engine (other than the crankshaft) continously changes direction up and down. You are not spinning something in one direction. The piston is at 0RPM at the top of the stoke and 0RPM at the bottom of the stroke (regardless of engine speed), though the acceleration is not 0.

101lifts2 · 11-16-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikey

101, I thought you were an engineer. How do you keep failing at basic physics concepts?

He is speaking of the piston and rod assemblies, not the crankshaft. Or at least that is what I was assuming. And what is this "keep failing" you speak of?

Besides I'm an EE, not an ME (though I had a bunch of ME classes which I hated).

racedoll · 11-16-2009, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HokieDNA01

HAHA I never said a 1000 can't enter a corner as fast as a 600. I ment it as a rider that does not have the "balls" to carry speed through a corner can always ham fist the 1000 on the way back out to make up for lost time. I see it all the time. Guys break checking on their 1000s so I run up their ass then gunning it out of the turn so there is little to no chance I can pass them on a straight. One guy almost wrecked himself on his "big-bore" breaking hard into a sweeper then when I tried to pass he drag raced me forcing me back into my lane behind him. I was not happy. He wrecked it the following weekend.

They do this to me at the track all the time and it pisses me off to no end.

karl_1052 · 11-16-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

He is speaking of the piston and rod assemblies, not the crankshaft. Or at least that is what I was assuming. And what is this "keep failing" you speak of?

Besides I'm an EE, not an ME (though I had a bunch of ME classes which I hated).

He is talking about the gyroscopic effects of the heavier crankshaft in the 1000 versus the 600.