How old for belly button ring?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

You feel that tattoos and body piercings lead to poor health, obesity and diabetes? How so?

Same idea, different effect. They can lead to a poor body image and lack of self esteem, which can be just as self destructive as poor diet.

[Trip]

Oh, what if your kid rebels against your strict eating habits and wants to eat garbage. What you going to do then? LOL

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Trip

It may lead to that or the kid may grow out of his cheese phase and eat other things as his tastes changes. Unfortunately you are wrong because you can't predict eating habits, you can just make assinine guesses.

I hate vegetables as a kid and wouldn't eat them, now I can take out a plate of broccoli.

I wouldn't label a cheese sandwich as grossly unhealthy anyway.

You can't predict your children's eating habits as an adult with 100% certainty anymore than you can ensure you aren't all going to die on the way to the grocery store after being hit by a semi. But you can do your best to set them up for that, and to ensure they are healthy throughout their childhood.

I would label American Cheese as grossly unhealthy. Especially if that's supposed to be an actual protein source.

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Same idea, different effect. They can lead to a poor body image and lack of self esteem, which can be just as self destructive as poor diet.

That's pretty subjective, got anything to back it up?

Originally Posted by Trip

Oh, what if your kid rebels against your strict eating habits and wants to eat garbage. What you going to do then? LOL

I'm going to let him, provided he can pay for the garbage food himself. In fact, I fully expect him to rebel against our eating habits. At some point he's going to want a fucking Sprite I'd imagine. Or maybe not, since he's not addicted to any food additives and does not have a sweet tooth.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

That's pretty subjective, got anything to back it up?

Personal experience and the contents of every trailer park, that I've ever seen.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Personal experience and the contents of every trailer park, that I've ever seen.

And how do you account for the millions upon millions of successful adults with tattoos and piercings that do not have any self-esteem issues beyond that of a societal norm?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

And how do you account for the millions upon millions of successful adults with tattoos and piercings that do not have any self-esteem issues beyond that of a societal norm?

That they actually have such issues and are successful, because they push themselves to try and escape what they see as failure.

How do you account for all of the people who eat "American Cheese", but don't weigh 450 lbs?

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

How do you account for all of the people who eat "American Cheese", but don't weigh 450 lbs?

Crystal Meth.

[anthonyk]

Leaving aside adults for a minute, I'd guess there are plenty of parents out there who don't want to encourage fashion trends that seem to sexualize teenage (and younger) girls. I'd put a belly button ring squarely in that category.

Establishing the morals you want your kid to live by as an adult is just as important as establishing good nutrition.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Crystal Meth.

Substitute coke for meth, and you can tie that right into the "successful people with tattoos" thing.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

And how do you account for the millions upon millions of successful adults with tattoos and piercings that do not have any self-esteem issues beyond that of a societal norm?

How do you account for the people that eat american cheese that don't have any health problems beyond the societal norm?