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Sean · 03-29-2010, 11:52 AM

Whole Foods is a convenient source of grass-fed beef. I know they have organic / free range chicken but I don't know what it's fed. Trader Joe's has good stuff too.

Grass-fed beef tastes totally different. I can't see how caged animals would have the same muscle development that free-range animals do.

AquaPython · 03-29-2010, 11:52 AM

APOC - or anyone else.

prove it. you have a link or a study to show that this data is incorrect, from a source that is not directly supported by a food company. post it. i would love to read it.

Apoc · 03-29-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by shmike

And now Apoc is wrong.

No, im not. A lean cut of meat from corn fed beef has the same nutrtional value as beef thats fed the greenest grass. The fattest cuts will undoubtledly have more fat, but you shouldnt be buying those anyway.

Its not about what the beef is fed, its about the cuts you buy, the amount you eat, etc etc.

Blaming the food industry for fat people, is like blaming the weather man because its raining. Corn fed, chemical grown beef is not killing Americans. Overeating is.

Apoc · 03-29-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaPython

prove it. you have a link or a study to show that this data is incorrect, from a source that is not directly supported by a food company. post it. i would love to read it.

The proof? 100 grams of lean beef has 36 grams of protein. Thats universal, thats every cow ever raised, because that is the chemical composition of beef. That is the way the amino acids link together in their DNA. Chicken has 30 grams per 100. Thats every chicken breast, ever, throughout the world, in that range (+-1 gram). It doesnt matter where you buy your cuts, this is a constant.

Kaneman · 03-29-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

The proof? 100 grams of lean beef has 36 grams of protein. Thats universal, thats every cow ever raised, because that is the chemical composition of beef. That is the way the amino acids link together in their DNA. Chicken has 30 grams per 100. Thats every chicken breast, ever, throughout the world, in that range (+-1 gram). It doesnt matter where you buy your cuts, this is a constant.

There's more to meat than just protein content.

Apoc · 03-29-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

There's more to meat than just protein content.

Nobody is saying there isnt, he said that that cuts of meat have 75% less protein then they did before, and its just not true. The vast majority of the other 64 grams is water.

AquaPython · 03-29-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

The proof? 100 grams of lean beef has 36 grams of protein. Thats universal, thats every cow ever raised, because that is the chemical composition of beef. That is the way the amino acids link together in their DNA. Chicken has 30 grams per 100. Thats every chicken breast, ever, throughout the world, in that range (+-1 gram). It doesnt matter where you buy your cuts, this is a constant.

are you getting that from something like calorie King ? it seems to me that you are getting this information on a study of available beef, and concluding on your own that this universal, and historically accurate. again, post your sources.

AquaPython · 03-29-2010, 12:09 PM

are you going to tell me that the average chicken breast is not 4 times larger than they were in the 1930's, or that captive Turkeys are so fucking fat they would die and not procreate if it was not STRICTLY for artificial insemination?

Apoc · 03-29-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaPython

are you getting that from something like calorie King ? it seems to me that you are getting this information on a study of available beef, and concluding on your own that this universal, and historically accurate. again, post your sources.

Im getting that from th numerous books I read and researched on the subject when I was bodybuilding. I have never seen, or even fucking know what a calorie king is. I got my info from the work of the best nutritionists in the world. Gerard Dente, Chris Janusz (that might be spelled wrong), bruce sweeney, and many others.

Buy 'Macrobolic Nutrition', its the simplest for people who dont know their shit to learn from.

Apoc · 03-29-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaPython

are you going to tell me that the average chicken breast is not 4 times larger than they were in the 1930's, or that captive Turkeys are so fucking fat they would die and not procreate if it was not STRICTLY for artificial insemination?

NO, I AM NOT TELLING YOU THE AVERAGE CHICKEN BREAST ISNT LARGER.

Im telling you that for 100 fucking grams of chicken breast, there is 30 grams of protein. Is it really that hard to understand?

03-29-2010, 11:52 AM	#131
Sean giggity Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: socal Moto: street, sumo & dirty Posts: 1,071	Whole Foods is a convenient source of grass-fed beef. I know they have organic / free range chicken but I don't know what it's fed. Trader Joe's has good stuff too. Grass-fed beef tastes totally different. I can't see how caged animals would have the same muscle development that free-range animals do.