Teaching newbies to ride. - Page 14

101lifts2 · 04-25-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Amorok

Yeah, it's a requirement to ride on base, so it's offered for free on base, I teach it for free but the military paid for me to get certified and any professional development seminars or other further training I get will be free for me. They really take the safety thing seriously, and so do I, that's why I got involved with it. The stuff I learned in the BRC and ERC has saved my life several times, and I'm pretty stoked that I can help other people out the same way.

You teach a sportbike specific training class? Are the speeds faster than the parking lot speeds?

101lifts2 · 04-25-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

LOL and you are complaining about me wanting more in depth training and training with friends. Basically you just forfeited all your debate. Win for me. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... Nice to fuck up your arguments when you didn't even wait for the MSF to end, you got out there with your friends before you even finished the course. Thanks for admitting it.

He said he practiced what HE LEARNED FROM THE MSF. No win.

Avatard · 04-26-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsunami

Avatard, can she ride a regular bicycle?

Yes, but not in a manner that inspires me to ride closely alongside

Tsunami · 04-26-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

Yes, but not in a manner that inspires me to ride closely alongside

I think she should work on one skill at a time on separate days and have her stop for the day when she has done well and feeling good about it. That way she doesn't go home and stew about doing something wrong and get discouraged.

How are you teaching her about clutch control? Have her clutch out until she feels the bike move and clutch in again and like Amorok said, have her control it and walk with the bike. When she gets comfortable teach her how to use the brakes. Maybe front brake first before the rear (so she doesn't get confused and then both). Let her clutch out in first, ride straight away from stuff she can crash into and then clutch in and brake.

I wouldn't even teach her how to shift until she can get that done.

How does she feel about you teaching her to ride? Do you make her more nervous because she feels like she has to meet or exceed your expectations?

I know I learn better from people I am not related to. But mostly because they can't teach and they end up making me want to punch them. My mom tried teaching me how to drive once but gave no instructions other than turn the wheel. After we both wanted to kill each other after 5 minutes she sent me to driving school and I learned really quickly.

After MSF, my friend took me to the parking lot a couple of times and then on quiet neighborhoods. Then I moved back to NY and met my husband who tried to cram 15 years of riding experience at me at one time. I remember one of the first times we went out together he tried to teach me about lane positioning, at the stop sign, yelling through his helmet and when all I could think about was stopping and not tipping over. Talk about nerve wracking. It got to the point that I had to ride with other people (with him not around or in front where he couldn't see what I was doing) that I got more comfortable and I didn't get comfortable until we stopped riding together and I would go out alone.

Rangerscott · 04-26-2010, 01:05 AM

My ER-6N would make a great teaching bike. It's like you're sitting on a stool and the power delivery isn't, "my head is 6ft behind me."

Trip · 04-26-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

He said he practiced what HE LEARNED FROM THE MSF. No win.

Yes win, he was out on the road illegaly with the help of his friends beyond what the MSF teaches before the course was even over. That's a win.

azoomm · 04-26-2010, 08:40 AM

This thread is why I want to develop a new class at the track....

wildchild · 04-26-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by racedoll

He followed me and sometimes that made me feel like I was being pushed. I preferred when he would lead, which was at a comfortable pace for me. He knew the limits and knew I wouldn't push mine.

The idea is it's better to have your partner behind you, usually at a bit of a distance, rather then some idiot in his toyota who thinks all bikers are asshats and deserve to be pushed when possible.

Trip · 04-26-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wildchild

The idea is it's better to have your partner behind you, usually at a bit of a distance, rather then some idiot in his toyota who thinks all bikers are asshats and deserve to be pushed when possible.

plus people in front of you make you want to keep up with them.

azoomm · 04-26-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip

plus people in front of you make you want to keep up with them.

Right. And, you and I know it makes sense... because we have experience. But, I've found that women [especially] have problems with being "watched." They feel they are being critiqued at every move. It might make it a bit easier if you let them know WHY you ride behind them, and that you might be watching - but we usually forget what you did after riding 100ft

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Rangerscott Viff6N Mutated Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Moto: '01 Honda VFR 800 & '09 ER-6N Posts: 8,704	My ER-6N would make a great teaching bike. It's like you're sitting on a stool and the power delivery isn't, "my head is 6ft behind me."

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azoomm moderator chick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hill Country TX Moto: Pasta Rockets Posts: 8,917	This thread is why I want to develop a new class at the track....