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[Kaneman]

WTF is up with talking about cutting all the enjoyable parts of public school to save money while the country squanders billions upon billions upon billions on wars in shitholes that will always be shitholes?

Smittie wants us to be a bunch of robots I think. Ever heard of fun and quality of life? For fuck sakes...

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by RACER X

if you tax the rich more, you should tax "the poor" the same........

"The Rich" are currently taxed at a lower rate than they have been in the last 80 years. They can afford it a little more than can "The Poor."

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

I could see it for the primary and even middle schools. High schools? The lazy ass fat ass kids are are always going to be lazy ass fatass kids are done with sports by high school. High School should be pure academia. You go in in the morning and learn about English, math, science, etc. Things that'll help you get through college and life. Why waste it on sports with fancy stadiums and equipment?

There are also tons of academic style classes that could go too. An example is high school anatomy. The people interested in anatomy (such as future doctors, nurses, vets, etc) will learn that in college. Doctors won't even learn anatomy until they graduate with their bachelors and get into med school. Why waste paying a teacher to teach something people won't use and won't transfer over to college?

I could also go on about the media programs of the school. They spend a few thousand for a nice camera so 10 students can run the "student news" in the morning. Then the fancy Imacs to put the crap together aren't cheap either.

There are tons of waste in school that can be cut. But that would also cut teacher jobs (though potentially increase pay for others) which the NEA would never ever permit. Which the NEA has never given one shit about students anyways.

A lot of kids don't develop enough confidence to do sports until high school.

Also, for those who don't go on to college, high school is their last opportunity to be in sports.

And then there's the whole issue of how would colleges be able to acquire any talent if high school sports didn't exist ......

And as far as Anatomy lessons? Why don't you think that subject is valuable? Learning what's inside the human body is going to be more valuable to the average layman than Astronomy or Shakespeare, in my opinion.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

WTF is up with talking about cutting all the enjoyable parts of public school to save money while the country squanders billions upon billions upon billions on wars in shitholes that will always be shitholes?

Smittie wants us to be a bunch of robots I think. Ever heard of fun and quality of life? For fuck sakes...

Agree 1000%.

Want to cut costs? Get out of these other fucking countries and stop starting wars in the name of the money transfer scheme.

Sports builds teamwork, drive and direction. Not to mention it keeps people active. It also gets the chicks.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

"The Rich" are currently taxed at a lower rate than they have been in the last 80 years. They can afford it a little more than can "The Poor."

Negative.

1988 - 1992 were lower.

Also, the top bracket starts at a MUCH lower dollar figure today (when adjusted for inflation*) than preceding years.

So, technically, "the rich" cannot afford it as easily as "the poor".


*Possible exception during the Clinton years but it's late and I'm not going to run inflation calcs.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Athletics is simply a necessary thing in the develoment of any kid that will grow up to be worth a shit.

You've said some really stupid shit in the past, but this may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site...

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

You've said some really stupid shit in the past, but this may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site...

Really? Care to explain? Because if you really think my post is SO controversial that it's the dumbest thing you've ever read, then you are one of the most bizarre online personas I've ever encountered.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

You've said some really stupid shit in the past, but this may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site...

Really? Come on man.

Kind of makes me sad how little importance people put on sports and physical activity in kids. Kids getting too fat, ridden with diabetes? I know, lets take sports out of school, that'll be great for society!!

Funny that your reply is actually one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site. Oh the irony.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by shmike

Negative.

1988 - 1992 were lower.

Also, the top bracket starts at a MUCH lower dollar figure today (when adjusted for inflation*) than preceding years.

So, technically, "the rich" cannot afford it as easily as "the poor".


*Possible exception during the Clinton years but it's late and I'm not going to run inflation calcs.

That's a pointy-headed quibble. Look at the taxation rates, by income, back as far as 1932. Look how much people were being taxed during the 1950s, which are generally acknowledged as the "golden era" of the United States. Rich people still managed to be rich.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_..._United_States

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

A lot of kids don't develop enough confidence to do sports until high school.

Also, for those who don't go on to college, high school is their last opportunity to be in sports.

And then there's the whole issue of how would colleges be able to acquire any talent if high school sports didn't exist ......

And as far as Anatomy lessons? Why don't you think that subject is valuable? Learning what's inside the human body is going to be more valuable to the average layman than Astronomy or Shakespeare, in my opinion.

I agree.

My daughter is taking AP anatomy which will translate to college credit. Maybe I should complain to the district about teaching her advanced classes that aren't needed "yet."

Oh, and maybe talk to them about getting rid of marching band too. I mean, all that early morning hard work and classical music. Completely unnecessary.