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Old 02-25-2010, 04:16 PM   #161
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The politics of dealing with customers and other servers are hard?

Business secretaries do both, all day, every day. Do you tip them too?
Dunno about up there, but in the US most secretaries (or "Admin. Assistants") make at least $40K, which is, what, about $20/hr?

Plus, those of them who do well, might get promoted one day, and make even more. So good performance is rewarded one way or the other. Why shouldn't the same be true for waiters?
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Old 02-25-2010, 04:17 PM   #162
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that's cause kids these days have no work ethic.
I believe its cause they know they can't get their ass beat by their old man.
that's the problem in todays world.
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Dunno about up there, but in the US most secretaries (or "Admin. Assistants") make at least $40K, which is, what, about $20/hr?

Plus, those of them who do well, might get promoted one day, and make even more. So good performance is rewarded one way or the other. Why shouldn't the same be true for waiters?
You keep skipping exactly the point were making. Those secretaries are paid by their employer, as servers should also be.
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You keep skipping exactly the point were making. Those secretaries are paid by their employer, as servers should also be.
So how much are you willing to pay for a Beer, steak, baked potato and salad then?
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You keep skipping exactly the point were making. Those secretaries are paid by their employer, as servers should also be.
Well... some of them get "tips"....




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'slice's point is that the customer tipping variable is a better incentive/management method than the salaried staff chasing around the hourly employees.
But, all Apoc and I were saying is if you do a shitty job, you just might get a shitty tip because tipping is not mandatory. If it were, as you just said, the quality of service would go down.

So the argument all along has been that if you don't deserve a tip, you shouldn't get it. And it's been very adamantly against because it's a hard job and even if you're not good at it, it should be my responsibility to pay your wages if I agree with it or not.
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So how much are you willing to pay for a Beer, steak, baked potato and salad then?


Well, when I go to Mavericks, I expect to spend about 60$ per person for just that. At Ponderosa, maybe 30-35.

Depends on the quality of the steak and potato.
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Well, when I go to Mavericks, I expect to spend about 60$ per person for just that.
Ya gotta speak English to me, What's Mavericks and is that your average price? You can get $100 steak dinners all night at Del Frisco's here.

All I'm saying is that if you want the restaurants to pay the servers as much as they make from tips its going to cost you a lot more to eat out. Same thing I said last time we debated this.
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I don't recall anyone saying you should tip even if the waitress sucked

Although I would add, if you're not gonna tip, at least have the balls to tell the waitress or the manager why.
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