Speaking of Buell and the AMA/DMG Roadracing Series... - Page 19

Rsv1000R · 06-09-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Dude, un-ruffle your feathers, JESUS! I'm talking about the way it looks. Am I now not allowed to have my own view about what is aesthetically pleasing? I don't like the looks at all. It is just my opinion but since it will be MY fucking money buying my next bike, you'll excuse me if I weigh my opinion a bit more heavily than yours.

Dude, it's great you don't like it, I'm not asking you to like it.

I'm trying to explain that a power to weight based class can allow them to compete fairly.

Rsv1000R · 06-09-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Aw come on, Pegram won by like .3 of a second or something... I don't call that a smoking... besides Pegram is on a WSBK spec 1200cc bike...

What the fuck does a WSBK spec bike have to do with anything? It's racing in Superbike.

Do you realize that the AMA is going to adopt FIM WSBK rules?

Maybe you're pissed the yamaha is now competing with the suzuki?

And again, all of the sanctioning bodies in racing recognize that a twin can not make the same hp as a I4 of the samesize.

Lastly, I like how twins run, if you want buy an I4, I don't care, but don't whine that everybike made isn't an I4, not everyone wants one.

Rsv1000R · 06-09-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Nope, it has belt drive because supposedly, according to Buell, belt drive is better. Gas in the frame is better. Oil in the swing arm is better. Perimeter brakes are better. Carrying the muffler under the engine is better. When the Buell was introduced, Erik proclaimed that he had a better motorcycle design. The ads and the accolades were endless. Well, I say prove it! Fuck, if they aren't trying to sell it as a sport/race bike then why race it in the first place? When it wins races it's a race bike, when it loses then it's a street bike.

Belt drive is better on the street, putting weight under the bike is better than hanging it off the back, gas in the frame, and oil in the swing arm are pretty good ideas as well.

You're the one who's whine about it competing in a class of bike that have about the same hp.

marko138 · 06-09-2009, 10:33 AM

FYI, Tigger, the 1125 doesn't use the swingarm as an oil tank.

Homeslice · 06-09-2009, 10:41 AM

The front end of the 1125 looks like someone sat on it and squashed the headlights. And then there's the ugly side scoops.

z06boy · 06-09-2009, 10:42 AM

Well Eric Buell was a former Harley Davidson engineer so that may have something to do with Buell using Harley engines. This and the fact that Buell and HD entered into an agreement/partnership with HD having right at half of the controlling ownership.

Amber Lamps · 06-09-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138

Do you guys know why the old Buells used Harley based engines? Probably not, and it's not because Erik thought they were the best engines ever. They are good engines, good for the street, but thats not why he used them to begin with.

Actually, I thought that it was because all the other companies had laughed in his face and I don't mean this in a bad way. I'm pretty sure that he approached other companies with his ideas.

Amber Lamps · 06-09-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsv1000R

Dude, it's great you don't like it, I'm not asking you to like it.

I'm trying to explain that a power to weight based class can allow them to compete fairly.

Oh no you don't! I said that I don't like the way it looks and you jumped down my throat...

Besides, I'm ready to concede that it's "fair" considering the results...

Papa_Complex · 06-09-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy

Well Eric Buell was a former Harley Davidson engineer so that may have something to do with Buell using Harley engines. This and the fact that Buell and HD entered into an agreement/partnership with HD having right at half of the controlling ownership.

Worked for them. Built and designed them. Raced them. Could get a shit-load of them....

Rsv1000R · 06-09-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Oh no you don't! I said that I don't like the way it looks and you jumped down my throat...

Besides, I'm ready to concede that it's "fair" considering the results...

If I did I apologize, as I don't care what it looks like, nor whether you like it or not.

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Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	The front end of the 1125 looks like someone sat on it and squashed the headlights. And then there's the ugly side scoops. Last edited by Homeslice; 06-09-2009 at 10:44 AM..

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z06boy Letzroll Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Norman area, NC Moto: 07 Red R1 & 07 Blue R6 Posts: 5,265	Well Eric Buell was a former Harley Davidson engineer so that may have something to do with Buell using Harley engines. This and the fact that Buell and HD entered into an agreement/partnership with HD having right at half of the controlling ownership.