adam corolla on OWSers

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by shmike

Was he born rich?

Not at all. Extremely hard worker and all around smart guy. Definitely a case of a guy who really earned his way....and got a bit lucky as well. He says he created his own luck by working his ass off though, which is fair enough.

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Not at all. Extremely hard worker and all around smart guy. Definitely a case of a guy who really earned his way....and got a bit lucky as well. He says he created his own luck by working his ass off though, which is fair enough.

And he's correct. It's not "luck," so much as being in the right place at the right time because you bust your ass to actually BE in the right place. You bust your ass to get your name out there and make contacts. Most hollywood people weren't simply "found" out of shear luck, they did all they could to get their names in front of the right people. Same with most people in higher positions in corporations. Sure, some of those people were born into wealthy families that helped get them in the right places, but many actually put themselves in the right places and busted their ass to get there.

These OWS people kind of remind me of my ex, who has been unemployed since May. She bitches that I earn a "bunch of money" and thinks I don't pay enough in support. However, the amount of support I pay is based on what the court system says I should pay, which is actually a pretty big chunk of my pay. I carry health insurance for my daughter, on top of paying support. I work two jobs and I'm also going to school to put myself in a better position to earn a higher paying job. I do all of this while still taking care of my daughter 40% of the time and making sure that when I have my daughter, I spend time with her. How do I do that? By having an extremely limited social life. Eventually, I'll get back to where I can have a normal social life, but right now, I don't have much option if I want to better myself and get into a better financial position in life.

Yet my ex says she's not lucky enough to be able to work two jobs. Um, she's not even working ONE, and that's completely by choice. Instead, she earns unemployment (supposedly, since I've never seen any documents to that fact) and she volunteers at my daughter's school, helping one of the teachers. Taxes, health insurance and child support take away 45% of my income from my primary job, yet I'm "fortunate" enough to have two jobs. It's actually not that tough to get a job in this town, I see signs all over town that places are hiring, yet my ex prefers to volunteer at the school while earning unemployment and bitching about how much I earn and how little she thinks I pay in child support. [/rant]

[Kaneman]

Really? The OWS folks I know have full-time jobs. Weird.

[pauldun170]

He was lucky enough to ride the coat tails of Jimmy Kimmel and build up a name for himself (which requires talent)

Corolla's lesson to the kids is that you dont have to be smart or finish high school or really be good at anything. You just need coat tails to ride on and the ability to listen to a mentor.

[Kaneman]

Really its just the same ol' dirty hippie bashing that people have been doing for years.

Hippies: "The Vietnam War is wrong, we should not be sending thousands of young men to die in the jungle."

Hippie Haters: "Fuck you hippie, take a fucking shower and get a job."

Hippies: "Uhhh....yea....but what about this giant war that is destroying the country?"

Hippie Haters: "I said GET A FUCKING JOB" *turns nose up because he's been working at his Dad's mechanic shop for 30 years.*

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Really? The OWS folks I know have full-time jobs. Weird.

They must get lots of vacation time.

[nhgunnut]

First the Majority of OWS has never worked more than a year in one place. Some have had careers didn't find the success they feel they should have achieved and would like it to be someone else fault and not theirs that in their own eyes they have failed. Most can't tell you what the Glass Stegall Act is. ( When I asked one of the sign carriers what they thought of the Glass Stegall act they actually said "I haven't heard them play are they local?") What ever their purpose or ideas their tactics eliminate any legitimacy. They Crush small businesses where ever they occupy and cost the municipalities they are in MIllions in tax dollars that come out of the pockets of the 99% they would like to pretend the represent. Their most attended rally was in NY when the most optimistic estimates said there were 20K on their biggest day they actually numbered with less than using the most optimistic numbers.0025% of the city they were in. (that by the way assumes that all of the people that were there were in support and all from the city both are doubtful) OWS is known to most Americans as "The Parasites in the Park."

[Tmall]

Bowater Jersey paper company just paid two executives 4 million in bonuses in NS. They've threatened to shutdown the mill which directly supplies 1000 jobs to my area. They're doing this because they're not making enough profit. Our idiot government is giving them 25 million to stay open.

25 million to a company that can afford to pay 4 million in bonuses... in all honesty, they'll likely shutdown anyway. But, THEY will be 25 million richer on top of the tax breaks and reduced power rates the've been granted to stay open.

They'll just keep fleecing us and you until we're all bled dry. But you're worried that some dirty hippies are costing cities a few hundred thousand dollars. You've definitely bought into what you're being sold. Hopefully there can be some reform to stop things like this from happening.

Nobody is saying that the dirty hippies deserve a mansion and a Porsche. What they are saying is that corporations shouldn't be earning billions of dollars on the backs of your people. They're saying a CEO should not make more in a day than an average employe of his makes in a year when they're running their companies into the ground to squeeze every last dollar from people who have to work two jobs to support their deadbeat exwives with child support.

You seem to be worried that they'll get a piece of your pie. But honestly, your pie isn't that great. Nobody even wants it. They just want a fair chance at being able to accomplish a living and a life without working a 70 hour week and paying down debt for the next 20 years to pay for an education.

[Amber Lamps]

Whoa now.... Who has forced these kids to take out all these loans? Maybe you shouldn't go to college if you can't afford it. Nobody that's who. Besides, when I hear that a college football coach gets paid several million a year.... I understand that a ceo makes a ton of money a year, and maybe more than you think they should be but who gets to set their wages? I want to be able to make as much money as my talent and drive will allow without some government agency setting the limit. Or do you think that they will just stop at ceos? Maybe I shouldn't be able to make over $70, 000 a year.... Maybe everyone should get the same rewards regardless of their talent or effort... Maybe the welfare rat with 15 kids should have a new car in the garage.... I just bought a new one.... That's not fair is it?

[nhgunnut]

T Mall Respectfully, good for the Executive that Negotiated the Deal I wish it was me. You seem to be looking for Fairness. The world is not a fair place (thank god it isn't, I and most of the people here would still be in jail, having been caught EVERY time w committed a crime) The complaining about what someone else makes really does prove Mr. Corolla's point.
The "Parasites in the Park" have to Date cost the municipalities they are in 100s of millions of dollars. (not a few hundred thousand) Boston alone in excess 18 million. I can't speak to the Canadian losses here in the US it is rapidly approaching a billion dollars. They offer no solution only on going whining about it isn't fair.You want fair I suggest a well monitored sandbox. While I agree the best answer is that getting government out of all businesses and that includes subsidies as well as getting out of what people get paid. My message to the "Parasites in the Park" Is go accomplish something , if you have a solution present it, work to get support for it ,and get it voted on. Get out of the pockets of those of us who go to work every day,and stop crushing the livelihood of the small businesses around your infestation. By the way I have never called them Hippies. The Hippies I knew in the early 70s at least had some level of conviction weren't frightened by hard work and were willing to accept responsibility for both the benefits and consequences of their actions. The Parasites in the Park whine if they get Pepper sprayed, or arrested. They claim to use civil disobedience as a means of free speech but don't want to accept the consequence of their actions. They are privileged Parasites and nothing More!
Since my core beliefs are libertarian, I believe the Government is a Necessary Evil always Necessary, and Always EVIL.