Mexican drug cartels recruiting Texas children

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

I think they share responsibility, absolutely. But at what point do you (generic) as a drug dealer decide you've crossed the line? Is the "War on Drugs" really so effective that they need to involve kids in their crap? Of course, they've done worse. My point is that no one is forcing Mexicans to run drugs up here, or corrupt young kids, or cut people's heads off. These are individual choices they have made.

Cut off the demand and they wouldn't have that particular in-road to the country, sure. But they would still be worthless scum, and they would find some other way to hurt people. And it would still be spilling over the border, because the US government refuses to do anything to stop it.

I disagree that the amount of violence would remain the same. US drug demand creates the lure of easy money. And anytime that lure exists, it causes people to move beyond the bounds of sanity, into the justification of murder. People don't just start murdering just for fun.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I disagree that the amount of violence would remain the same. US drug demand creates the lure of easy money. And anytime that lure exists, it causes people to move beyond the bounds of sanity, into the justification of murder. People don't just start murdering just for fun.

Seems like these guys take their business very seriously with all the killings and how brutal/blatant they are about it.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by tommymac

Seems like these guys take their business very seriously with all the killings and how brutal/blatant they are about it.

They kill anybody who have ties to the opposing cartel. If you're on the payroll, you have a target on your back.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by Tmall

They kill anybody who have ties to the opposing cartel. If you're on the payroll, you have a target on your back.

They also take out police/judges/politicians that arent on their payroll too.

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by Tmall

there is a video. "fucked" doesn,t begin to describe it.

For sure. I didn't have the sound on because i was eating lunch in the cafeteria. The guys seemed pretty damn calm for knowing their head is about ot be chopped off in a horrible way. Personally I think I'd prefer the chainsaw over the knife.

Another reason to end the war on drugs. As "evil" as pharmacutical/businesses are, they in general don't set out to kill others. Let MIT chemists make the drugs and Harvard MBAs sell the drugs. They tend to not chop of heads nad kill others. Though unions are a different story.

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

How so?

I just can't figure out what the hell you meant. Is there some sort of "Smoke Local" movement out there, where one of the requirements is also that your pot must be grown by a US citizen?

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I disagree that the amount of violence would remain the same. US drug demand creates the lure of easy money. And anytime that lure exists, it causes people to move beyond the bounds of sanity, into the justification of murder. People don't just start murdering just for fun.

I would direct you to exhibit A, MS-13:

Prosecutors filed three counts of murder and other charges Thursday against Edwin Ramos, 21, of El Sobrante, an alleged street gang member who police say opened fire on the Bolognas after their car briefly blocked Ramos from completing a left turn down a narrow street.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz1b9y17JXr

MS-13 members were recruited by Mexican cartels because of their brutality. The drug trade didn't make them violent, their violence got them a place in the drug trade. They and other gangs like them were essentially born from illegal immigration and the tendency of illegal immigrants to seek their own justice apart from legal authorities.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

I just can't figure out what the hell you meant. Is there some sort of "Smoke Local" movement out there, where one of the requirements is also that your pot must be grown by a US citizen?

Sounds like you figured it out OK.

Why wouldn't you want it grown by a US citizen?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

I would direct you to exhibit A, MS-13:



MS-13 members were recruited by Mexican cartels because of their brutality. The drug trade didn't make them violent, their violence got them a place in the drug trade. They and other gangs like them were essentially born from illegal immigration and the tendency of illegal immigrants to seek their own justice apart from legal authorities.

Large, well-organized gangs like MS-13 wouldn't exist if illegal trades such as the drug trade didn't exist. Instead, gangs would just stay small and local, i.e. simply for the purpose of brotherhood or for protecting their rinky-dink neighborhood.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Why wouldn't you want it grown by a US citizen?

Because BC Bud is the best bud.