My MPG is better than your MPG...

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by RACER X

why not? i run M1 in our 6 y.o. protege5, worth about 4-5k i guess.

just changed oil this weekend.

why run syn in bikes, most are worth less then $9k like that car

I'm just saying that a synthetic oil isn't going to make a difference unless you're planning on keeping it for 200,000 miles or more.

Oil seems to be a big peer pressure thing. Same goes for 3,000 mile oil changes. They are a waste of money for the vast majority of people. It depends on your driving conditions, distance, weather, etc. If all you do is highway long trips, you're fine with 7,500 mile changes. Short trips on the other hand.......

But whatever makes people feel good.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I'm just saying that a synthetic oil isn't going to make a difference unless you're planning on keeping it for 200,000 miles or more.

Oil seems to be a big peer pressure thing. Same goes for 3,000 mile oil changes. They are a waste of money for the vast majority of people. It depends on your driving conditions, distance, weather, etc. If all you do is highway long trips, you're fine with 7,500 mile changes. Short trips on the other hand.......

But whatever makes people feel good.

haha, really? syn reduces friction better, you get better power and fuel economy with good oil than you do with crap. I felt the difference immediately when I moved to good oil in my last bike and in my truck. Try it sometime, not everyone is as ignorant as you think.

[Homeslice]

You "felt" the difference? Even if you gained 2 hp, that's not enough to feel with a 250hp truck.

I've tried syn plenty of times, never experienced any difference except for better sub-zero starting.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

You "felt" the difference? Even if you gained 2 hp, that's not enough to feel with a 250hp truck.

I've tried syn plenty of times, never experienced any difference except for better sub-zero starting.

Or how about, I couldn't see out of the mirrors of my bike with dino in, but I can do 450 miles on it without a numb butt with MX4T in. Or that I gained 1+mpg in my truck. This isn't rocket surgery. How many HP does my truck have again?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Triple

When I drain Amsoil after 5,000+ miles of use, it looks the same as when I originally poured it in.

When I used to drain conventional oil after 3,000 miles of use, color would range from dark brown to black glop.

That tells me all I need to know.

Quality filters are important, too, of course.

Dirty oil doesn't necessarily mean it's inferior oil, it might also mean that it contains an aggressive detergent package, and it cleaned out the gunk in your engine. In fact there are a lot of people who say that about Mobil 1.

[pauldun170]

I keep my cars for a long time.
I change my car oil every 3000miles.
I've even changed sythetic oil every 3000miles.

Its appropriate for me since I only drive anywhere from 5K-8K a year with a lot of short trips.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Sean

Or how about, I couldn't see out of the mirrors of my bike with dino in, but I can do 450 miles on it without a numb butt with MX4T in. Or that I gained 1+mpg in my truck. This isn't rocket surgery. How many HP does my truck have again?

You are comparing two different time periods, one with Oil A and another with Oil B. Your truck isn't operating in a controlled test, so there's too many uncontrolled variables (weather, tire pressure, trip distance, etc) for you to declare that your 1 mpg improvement was due to a different brand of oil.

[Mudpuppy]

do i get a free rainbow sticker with the car and free health care but lose my appetite for red meat all while my balls shrivel up and my dick tucks back?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

You are comparing two different time periods, one with Oil A and another with Oil B. Your truck isn't operating in a controlled test, so there's too many uncontrolled variables (weather, tire pressure, trip distance, etc) for you to declare that your 1 mpg improvement was due to a different brand of oil.

Lacking a time machine, I averaged things over several thousand miles.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Sean

Lacking a time machine, I averaged things over several thousand miles.

OK, but it's not uncommon for engines to deliver different fuel economy as they age.

Originally Posted by Mudpuppy

do i get a free rainbow sticker with the car and free health care but lose my appetite for red meat all while my balls shrivel up and my dick tucks back?

I actually think the Yaris is good-looking for what it is. Way better than a Fit.