New MSF advocate.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

I'm fat. I land harder.

you can't use that excuse, there are two fat guys that run with us and do it very successfully. They make suspension for these bikes for fat people.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by Trip

go to a track school, MSF is highly overrated.

Oh man do I want to go to a track school. I told my instructors that I want to get into club racing after graduation. During the drill where you do a straight into a sweeping corner, I was trying my hardest to get my knee to the ground without touching, cause I just had jeans on. They just shook their heads and waved me by. They barely ever had to correct me, and of course they had to pick me to do the test first. It was a good experience, and a good excuse to get 3 days off work..

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Trip

go to a track school, MSF is highly overrated.

Dude this really makes no sense for what the MSF is supposed to teach you which is how to ride a motorcycle. You don't go to a track to learn how to ride, you go to learn how to ride fast. Put a new rider at a trackday out here and he is gonna crash.

MSF also teaches you how to survive on the street. It's a good course, but people need further training. ERC what Derf suggested is the next step.

Originally Posted by Porkchop

Oh man do I want to go to a track school. I told my instructors that I want to get into club racing after graduation. During the drill where you do a straight into a sweeping corner, I was trying my hardest to get my knee to the ground without touching, cause I just had jeans on. They just shook their heads and waved me by. They barely ever had to correct me, and of course they had to pick me to do the test first. It was a good experience, and a good excuse to get 3 days off work..

How old are you? If you wanna club race, start young. This way when you crash (and you will) you will heal faster.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Dude this really makes no sense for what the MSF is supposed to teach you which is how to ride a motorcycle. You don't go to a track to learn how to ride, you go to learn how to ride fast. Put a new rider at a trackday out here and he is gonna crash.

MSF also teaches you how to survive on the street. It's a good course, but people need further training. ERC what Derf suggested is the next step.

He knows how to ride, which is why I suggested track school.

MSF doesn't do a good job of teaching you how to survive on the street, it barely teaches you the basics. It's a weak course limited by many things.

[lauralynne]

I went from MSF straight to racing - I put about 200 miles on my 'street' bike - all neighborhood stuff to get the basics down. And then my street bike became a race only bike.

It can be done.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by lauralynne

I went from MSF straight to racing - I put about 200 miles on my 'street' bike - all neighborhood stuff to get the basics down. And then my street bike became a race only bike.

It can be done.

Heck, you can skip street riding and MSF. It's possible to learn on your own and go straight to track schools/racing. Most racing leagues require a school, so it's hard to get into most series without the school license.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Dude this really makes no sense for what the MSF is supposed to teach you which is how to ride a motorcycle. You don't go to a track to learn how to ride, you go to learn how to ride fast. Put a new rider at a trackday out here and he is gonna crash.

MSF also teaches you how to survive on the street. It's a good course, but people need further training. ERC what Derf suggested is the next step.



How old are you? If you wanna club race, start young. This way when you crash (and you will) you will heal faster.

I'm 22. I have been riding on and off for 3 years, when finances permit me to have a bike. The R6 was my first bike. The reason I bought the smaller VF was to save some money for a "decent" track bike. And its comfortable as shit.

If I get a job in ohio by next march, I hope to be racing by summer. If i get a job in LA... im not so sure. I probably wont have the money.

Mid-Ohio has a 2-day race school for beginner/intermediate/experts that runs all year long. A 2 day school with 9 hours of track time instruction is $365

[Particle Man]

That's a decent price in my book.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by lauralynne

I went from MSF straight to racing - I put about 200 miles on my 'street' bike - all neighborhood stuff to get the basics down. And then my street bike became a race only bike.

It can be done.

Yeah but you have to admit though you are not the norm. Damn Betty Spies :

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

I'm 22. I have been riding on and off for 3 years, when finances permit me to have a bike. The R6 was my first bike. The reason I bought the smaller VF was to save some money for a "decent" track bike. And its comfortable as shit.

If I get a job in ohio by next march, I hope to be racing by summer. If i get a job in LA... im not so sure. I probably wont have the money.

Mid-Ohio has a 2-day race school for beginner/intermediate/experts that runs all year long. A 2 day school with 9 hours of track time instruction is $365

Well....three years riding in OHIO doesn't allow for the best cornering experience does it. But....I'm guessing in the midwest the range of racer talent is much more broad than say in CA because we can ride year round and in canyons.