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Avatard · 01-25-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

It's possible to get Mac hardware performance for much cheaper. It just requires you to be more proactive in your hardware choices. Read reviews and ask questions about what mobo will perform with what ram and video card better. It's what Mac does and when you do it, it will work like that. Mac is the good no brainer way to get this done for you without the work though.

...Exactly, and if your line of work is NOT PCs, and you just wanna get back to what it is you do, it's totally worth it, IMHO...because it's also very elegant (the wireless KB looks like it should be on display in MOMA), and energy efficient too.

The Mini form factor is suitable for 99.9% of what we use computers for, and it's so small, so good on electricity, and so compatible with everything that it IS really a total no-brainer. Fuck PCs, and all that crunching and grinding and fan noise. The Mini is near dead silent, despite having a tiny fan, and takes up as much room as a stack of 6 CDs on the desk. Plug it into an LCD TV, and you have an instant (wireless networked) media center PC/TV.

I've finally come to the conclusion that I will pay for the modest privilege of saving my precious time and brain for my real job, and my life, and screw jerking off PC hardware configuration nightmares. It's just not fucking worth it. The Apple shit just works, and you can just get back to life.

Simplify.

Trip · 01-25-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

...Exactly, and if your line of work is NOT PCs, and you just wanna get back to what it is you do, it's totally worth it, IMHO...because it's also very elegant (the wireless KB looks like it should be on display in MOMA), and energy efficient too.

The Mini form factor is suitable for 99.9% of what we use computers for, and it's so small, so good on electricity, and so compatible with everything that it IS really a total no-brainer. Fuck PCs, and all that crunching and grinding and fan noise. The Mini is near dead silent, despite having a tiny fan, and takes up as much room as a stack of 6 CDs on the desk. Plug it into an LCD TV, and you have an instant (wireless networked) media center PC/TV.

I've finally come to the conclusion that I will pay for the modest privilege of saving my precious time and brain for my real job, and my life, and screw jerking off PC hardware configuration nightmares. It's just not fucking worth it. The Apple shit just works, and you can just get back to life.

Simplify.

I agree. I always recommend Macs to my computer illiterate family. Like you said, they work 95% of the time, they are dead simple, and I don't have to deal with my families questions and the crap that computer illiterate people do to PCs to make them stop working.

t-homo · 01-25-2010, 10:42 PM

I would love to build a gaming PC, half just for the experience of building it. I have gone through and picked out each of the parts a couple of times but never gone through with buying it all and putting it together. Pretty fun really.

Archren · 01-25-2010, 10:43 PM

I used to hate MacOS... but it's grown on me. The fact that iMovie and GarageBand came installed on my Macbook were HUGE bonuses. iMovie makes creaing professional-looking movies insanely easy... and I can plug my electric guitar into my laptop, tune it, and download guitar lessons to play along with since I'm a guitar n00b.

Yes, I could get something just as good in a regular PC, but it does require a lot of know-how in finding the computers, or building one from scratch. I may, down the line, build a faster than shit PC for playing those windows-only, graphics-intensive video games.. but it will be a single-purpose computer.

Avatard · 01-25-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

I agree. I always recommend Macs to my computer illiterate family. Like you said, they work 95% of the time, they are dead simple, and I don't have to deal with my families questions and the crap that computer illiterate people do to PCs to make them stop working.

Understand something; I used to be a computer consultant. I can just easily think of shit I'd far rather do, is all. I used to get off on building "ultimate" systems. That just got old, and frankly, this shit just works.

Trip · 01-25-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

Understand something; I used to be a computer consultant. I can just easily think of shit I'd far rather do, is all. I used to get off on building "ultimate" systems. That just got old, and frankly, this shit just works.

I don't have to understand. I am an electrical engineer and can build the shit from scratch and like doing it.

Avatard · 01-25-2010, 11:09 PM

OK, your E-penis is bigger, Mr. Engineer...but I too know how to build PCs, was my only point - it's just that Apple does it better (and smaller, and more elegant, and more efficient), but for not much more money...and all with far less hassle for me.

Frankly, that's all it took for me to wanna move on to more important things (I no longer "like" doing that shit).

For me, I deemed it worthwhile (~$1500 a room for integrated Mac/Win/TV). YMMV.

Trip · 01-25-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

OK, your E-penis is bigger, Mr. Engineer...but I too know how to build PCs, was my only point - it's just that Apple does it better (and smaller, and more elegant, and more efficient), but for not much more money...and all with far less hassle for me.

Frankly, that's all it took for me to wanna move on to more important things (I no longer "like" doing that shit).

For me, I deemed it worthwhile (~$1500 a room for integrated Mac/Win/TV). YMMV.

Yes, I know, I have already said multiple times that I agree with you that apple is less hassle. I am not the one that started the whole computer consultant crap. Any tom/dick/harry can build a PC if they can read, it's not hard. Hell I think I built a PC before I even knew what an Ohm was...

It's always easier to spend money to buy something vs putting in the time to build it right. I could build a lot of computer components myself, but the cost and quality of a homebrew is totally idiotic vs buying it online on newegg.

I think it is fair to say everyone on this board understands the whole Cost vs Time concept.

pauldun170 · 01-25-2010, 11:26 PM

Actually....Macs are only middle of the road when it comes to hardware reliability. Some might say they are POS
Sony, Asus and Toshiba are ahead of Macs when it comes to reliability.

karl_1052 · 01-26-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Archren

Macbook FTW.

Yeah, because Apple never has issues.

take the red one

01-25-2010, 10:43 PM	#14
Archren Sham WOW Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ATX Moto: 2007 Ducati 1098 Posts: 2,741	I used to hate MacOS... but it's grown on me. The fact that iMovie and GarageBand came installed on my Macbook were HUGE bonuses. iMovie makes creaing professional-looking movies insanely easy... and I can plug my electric guitar into my laptop, tune it, and download guitar lessons to play along with since I'm a guitar n00b. Yes, I could get something just as good in a regular PC, but it does require a lot of know-how in finding the computers, or building one from scratch. I may, down the line, build a faster than shit PC for playing those windows-only, graphics-intensive video games.. but it will be a single-purpose computer. __________________ Photography "The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time. It was impossible." - Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss

01-25-2010, 11:09 PM	#17
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	OK, your E-penis is bigger, Mr. Engineer...but I too know how to build PCs, was my only point - it's just that Apple does it better (and smaller, and more elegant, and more efficient), but for not much more money...and all with far less hassle for me. Frankly, that's all it took for me to wanna move on to more important things (I no longer "like" doing that shit). For me, I deemed it worthwhile (~$1500 a room for integrated Mac/Win/TV). YMMV. __________________ Insert free thought here.

01-25-2010, 10:42 PM	#13
t-homo WSB Champion Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 7,146	I would love to build a gaming PC, half just for the experience of building it. I have gone through and picked out each of the parts a couple of times but never gone through with buying it all and putting it together. Pretty fun really.