Judge dismisses suit over NJ teen driver decals

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

So a Government can take away Constitutional freedoms but not add additional freedoms not covered in the original paperwork? Transportation, even as an idea, was so vastly different then from what we have now that I'm not sure why the original Constitution should be expected to cover this.

Nor am I arguing that State government should not have any control over public roads. I'm not anti-speed limit, stop signs etc, etc. I'm extremely anti-drunk driver and believe in the enforcement of reasonable traffic laws by state or local police departments. However, I disagree with being required by the State to identify yourself as being part of a specific population segment such as a teenager.

Rights, like privileges may be taken away. Therefore it is not necessary to look at driving as a "privilege" that the Government has complete control over to believe in the common-sense need for certain legislation. The overall view that open-travel is a luxury afforded to us only as a government allowed luxury is dangerous.

The Government cannot "take away" your constitutional freedoms without having to face the courts. We have more freedoms today than we have EVER had in the history of this country.

The government tossing legislative or regulatory bullshit is another issue and the voters are responsible for that.
Whose idea do you think it was for these stickers?
Donna Weeks, mother of Kyleigh D’Alessio whose death in 2006 resulted in citizens petitioning their local representatives to creat Kyleigh's Law. The law thats forcing these stickers.
Dont blame government. Blame your neighbors for using their constitutional rights to petition government. Blame your other neighbors for being both ignorant and apathetic towards their local government.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Avatard

The Russians kept the population from moving freely about the country. It was part and parcel to their control mechanisms. Perhaps people need to start thinking about it a little more as a right, or face being controlled.

Just a thought.

As for the increased scrutiny upon teens, I can tell you that my daughter has already had to face a ticket at the hands of a cop intent only to harass. I fear further for her now.

You are free to travel where ever you like. Free from interference. You don't even have to pay.

Ya just gotta use your feet.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

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Dont blame government. Blame your neighbors for using their constitutional rights to petition government. Blame your other neighbors for being both ignorant and apathetic towards their local government.

Oh I do, I certainly do. But then there's always a bit of brainwashing that comes from Govt. control as well isn't there?

[Homeslice]

Donna Weeks, mother of Kyleigh D’Alessio whose death in 2006 resulted in citizens petitioning their local representatives to creat Kyleigh's Law. The law thats forcing these stickers.

In this society, a grieving woman gets whatever she wants. Men are in a constant rush to prove how protective they are, in the hopes of getting some ass.

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

In this society, a grieving woman gets whatever she wants. Men are in a constant rush to prove how protective they are, in the hopes of getting some ass.

Let the kids die. I mean.. Shit, I'm not getting ass for a month now.

I love how the farther north you get the more of a police state you get. We don't even need tags on the front of our cars here in Georgia.

Cops can already identify teenagers easily enough with their school parking permits.

[pauldun170]

True,
But if you ever want to tie your giraffe to a street lamp at 2:46 in the morning while your buddy who is sitting on you shoulders reads a story to you whie you are wearing a hood....
Georgia gonna lock your ass up.

your absolutely screwed if you curse over the phone while talking to your lawyer because that's illegal too.
Don't say "oh boy" when your lawyer tells you that you're fucked, thats illegal too.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

In this society, a grieving woman gets whatever she wants. Men are in a constant rush to prove how protective they are, in the hopes of getting some ass.

It's not about getting what she wants, but about some politician getting what he wants. Re-election.

I'm failing to see exactly how putting a sticker or whatever this gimmic does will prevent any teenage driver deaths. What is the gain from this other than sounding good?

[wildchild]

Originally Posted by Avatard

As for the increased scrutiny upon teens, I can tell you that my daughter has already had to face a ticket at the hands of a cop intent only to harass. I fear further for her now.

my son had the thrill of a cop's gun in his face. he was pulled over by officer nazi's girlfriend. so mister hero showed up and asked if she needs help. he then proceeds to put son on ground with gun in face to show off for his girl.

when we took it to court he didn't think it was so damn funny. I personally think cops should have to work rotations throughout the state. all the little podunk small town i think i'm a bad ass because they gave me a gun and a badge pricks should have to do at least two weeks a year in the inner city.

yeah who would ever think that pricks who have been given too much authority at too young of an age would ever harass young people without the money or reputation to defend themselves. nah that would never happen.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

The good ol' "Driving is not a right, its a privledge" argument. What a crock of shit.

I completely agree with the Dad that the plates will help Cops target and harass teen drivers.

It's either a conditional right, or a privilege with low requirements. In either case, it's something that can be taken awy.

... unless you believe in that Freeman bullshit, of course.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

I'm failing to see exactly how putting a sticker or whatever this gimmic does will prevent any teenage driver deaths. What is the gain from this other than sounding good?

NJ has restrictions that only allow those with a provisional license (kids) to drive during certain hours. Supposedly kids get in to way more accidents at night than they do during the day. This law is supposed to make it easier for police to know who should and shouldn't be driving at night.