UK cops eye shotgun cartridge Taser

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Why not just beat them unconscious with a club? Or burn them with a torch until they give up?

You could hold their head under water until they stop struggling. There are so many ways to possibly be killed, why use a silly taser to potentially kill an innocent until proven guilty man?

at the time of resisiting, he's guilty of resisting, esp if shot w/ a shotgun from afar.

[Kerry_129]

Originally Posted by Tmall

why use a silly taser to potentially kill an innocent until proven guilty man?

An innocent until proven guilty man should/would simply comply with a lawful order from an officer & not resist. Could it be abused/mis-used? Sure, but then so can buckshot/billy-clubs/jack-boots/pepper-spray/etc.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kerry_129

An innocent until proven guilty man should/would simply comply with a lawful order from an officer & not resist. Could it be abused/mis-used? Sure, but then so can buckshot/billy-clubs/jack-boots/pepper-spray/etc.

And oddly enough one of the alternatives to a device like this is beating him with a club.

[HokieDNA01]

Here is a video that shows it better.

Great vid from "Future Weapons" that shows people getting shot with one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtHi_0Qc3Ts

[BobTheBiker]

That system is freakin impressive. I'm diggin that shit.

[Tmall]

Does anybody remember the Oakland cop who thought he was pulling his taser and shot a man in the back who was being held on the ground?

Imagine now, if they load the wrong round. They'd kill people three deep..

[Kerry_129]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Does anybody remember the Oakland cop who thought he was pulling his taser...

I remember watching the video & thinking "Bullshit he thought he was pulling his tazer!".

Now, lethal/non-lethal rounds that can be fired from the same weapon presents a different safety challenge.

Come to think of it though, I think that if I were the cop facing down a 'bad guy', I would prefer a non-lethal/lethal combination in the same weapon. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be screwing around with a tazer with my primary weapon still holstered if it's my life on the line when things go seriously pear-shaped. I think 1 or 2 tazer rounds backed-up by #00 in the same magazine would make me feel more comfortable, personally.

[Phenix_Rider]

Originally Posted by Kerry_129

I remember watching the video & thinking "Bullshit he thought he was pulling his tazer!".

Now, lethal/non-lethal rounds that can be fired from the same weapon presents a different safety challenge.

Come to think of it though, I think that if I were the cop facing down a 'bad guy', I would prefer a non-lethal/lethal combination in the same weapon. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be screwing around with a tazer with my primary weapon still holstered if it's my life on the line when things go seriously pear-shaped. I think 1 or 2 tazer rounds backed-up by #00 in the same magazine would make me feel more comfortable, personally.

That would be an interesting alternative. Anyone know of a means of alternating loads? Where a user can switch at will I mean. Something like a second magazine or tube? Of course you can always pump your way past a lethal round in a single mag, but that's wasteful.

[shmike]

I don't like it.

Cops were issued tasers as a less than lethal alternative. How many videos or news stories have we seen where the cop decided to use a taser rather than diplomacy or handcuffs?

Now they want to extend their range to 100 feet? Fuck that.

If someone is truly a threat at 100 feet, shoot them.

[Kerry_129]

Originally Posted by shmike

How many videos or news stories have we seen where the cop decided to use a taser rather than diplomacy or handcuffs?

True - but then how many stories/vids have we not seen where someone was tazed & then cuffed, vs. shot & put in a body-bag.