Is 85MPH The Safest Speed Limit? - Page 2

Cutty72 · 04-09-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

Problem is, only new cars are being made more and more idiot proof. What about those of us that don't buy new cars? Hell, I probably won't have a car with any type of traction control for at least 10 to 15 years. I don't buy new cars. I buy cheap old cars and drive them till they die or get wrecked, whichever comes first. If the speed limit is based on car safety features, we'll really have a mess on our hands and government will then try to get involved in what I drive. Fuck that.

And what happens when all the idiot proof technology fails? People have become so dependent on it that they can't actually "drive" a vehicle anymore, they are just along for the ride.

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Originally Posted by azoomm

That's exactly right. No one else should ever move here. This place sucks.

Yup, ND too.

Avatard · 04-09-2011, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72

And what happens when all the idiot proof technology fails? People have become so dependent on it that they can't actually "drive" a vehicle anymore, they are just along for the ride.

Dude, cars fucking park themselves now.

We're about to turn out a generation of drivers that can't fucking park. God forbid they borrow an older car from some poor pleeb; they'll have to abandon it in the fucking street.

Cutty72 · 04-09-2011, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

Dude, cars fucking park themselves now.

We're about to turn out a generation of drivers that can't fucking park. God forbid they borrow an older car from some poor pleeb; they'll have to abandon it in the fucking street.

I know, thats my point.

There are soccer moms that can't park a hybrid escape in a 30' spot when equipped with back up sensors and a rear view camera.
Pretty sure I can (and have) parallel parked a 25' pickup pulling a 32' trailer in a spot with about 2' on each end when done.

Avatard · 04-09-2011, 11:53 PM

I guess the good news is that we're probably less than ten years from cars that follow a wire, or GPS, and drive themselves entirely. I say "good news" as in less stupidity and carnage, but "totally horrendously bad news" as in actually enjoying much of fucking driving anymore.

I suspect that first it will be primarily on interstates, and you'll still have the drudgery of navigating back roads with the silly disk before you, but at least on the highway, you'll be able to chill, and update your faceyspaces, and watch dancing with the porn stars.

caveman · 04-10-2011, 12:08 AM

You know I drove over there in Germany for three years. I saw how well most of them drove most of the time. I would agree that a faster speed limit may be allowed but you have to take into consideration one thing about the drivers there (where on the Autobahn there is only a "suggested" speed limit the Blue signs with white numbers white signs with the red circle and speed limit is actually a limit in that area). The drivers have to take a nearly one year long drivers ed class. and it costs buku dinero, not cheap in the slightest. Hell, their laws over there are so strict on driving that if you leave the sheet of snow on the roof or the trunk lid of your vehicle, you would get the equivalent of a $2000 fine. NO SHIT.
What with American driving education getting to the point where its not even done in the school anymore and in the 2 week long private classes that are only out to make a buck to pay for their piece of shit car. Perhaps we need to take serious considerations about raising the limit. Granted there is a percentage of us out there that have the experience and the forethought that would mitigate any dangers from increased speeds, but what about the rest of the majority?

I personally wish you could get a plate that said, "I can't drive 55." That would be permission to drive at faster speed.

But that is unconstitutional and the fools that weren't allowed to drive at the elevated limit would just find a way to forge them. "Make a rule and some asshole will find a way to break it." Not sure if thats already a quote but if not, I take claim.

Avatard · 04-10-2011, 12:20 AM

Buku dinero? What is that? Japanese/Mexican currency?

Beaucoup. Means "a lot" in French.

NJ already has the snow removal law, but it's not two thousand, it's a fine ranging from $25 to $75.

Everyone already drives 80-85. Let's stop the fucking Russian Roulette Road Tax shit.

Trip · 04-10-2011, 01:20 AM

We do need better drivers ed and enforcement of the left lane is a passing lane law.

Avatard · 04-10-2011, 01:32 AM

That, exactly.

Trip · 04-10-2011, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

That, exactly.

you know that could be their new revenue generator and I wouldn't have an issue with that at all.

Avatard · 04-10-2011, 01:36 AM

Me either. I've always said that if I were a cop, that's the ticket I'd write all fucking day long.

04-09-2011, 11:53 PM	#14
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	I guess the good news is that we're probably less than ten years from cars that follow a wire, or GPS, and drive themselves entirely. I say "good news" as in less stupidity and carnage, but "totally horrendously bad news" as in actually enjoying much of fucking driving anymore. I suspect that first it will be primarily on interstates, and you'll still have the drudgery of navigating back roads with the silly disk before you, but at least on the highway, you'll be able to chill, and update your faceyspaces, and watch dancing with the porn stars. __________________ Insert free thought here.

04-10-2011, 12:08 AM	#15
caveman mmmm, Beeeer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South of the D Michigan Moto: 08 HD Ultra Posts: 582	You know I drove over there in Germany for three years. I saw how well most of them drove most of the time. I would agree that a faster speed limit may be allowed but you have to take into consideration one thing about the drivers there (where on the Autobahn there is only a "suggested" speed limit the Blue signs with white numbers white signs with the red circle and speed limit is actually a limit in that area). The drivers have to take a nearly one year long drivers ed class. and it costs buku dinero, not cheap in the slightest. Hell, their laws over there are so strict on driving that if you leave the sheet of snow on the roof or the trunk lid of your vehicle, you would get the equivalent of a $2000 fine. NO SHIT. What with American driving education getting to the point where its not even done in the school anymore and in the 2 week long private classes that are only out to make a buck to pay for their piece of shit car. Perhaps we need to take serious considerations about raising the limit. Granted there is a percentage of us out there that have the experience and the forethought that would mitigate any dangers from increased speeds, but what about the rest of the majority? I personally wish you could get a plate that said, "I can't drive 55." That would be permission to drive at faster speed. But that is unconstitutional and the fools that weren't allowed to drive at the elevated limit would just find a way to forge them. "Make a rule and some asshole will find a way to break it." Not sure if thats already a quote but if not, I take claim. __________________ Heres my 10¢, my 2¢ are free. Caveman

04-10-2011, 12:20 AM	#16
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Buku dinero? What is that? Japanese/Mexican currency? Beaucoup. Means "a lot" in French. NJ already has the snow removal law, but it's not two thousand, it's a fine ranging from $25 to $75. Everyone already drives 80-85. Let's stop the fucking Russian Roulette Road Tax shit. __________________ Insert free thought here.

04-10-2011, 01:32 AM	#18
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	That, exactly. __________________ Insert free thought here.

04-10-2011, 01:36 AM	#20
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Me either. I've always said that if I were a cop, that's the ticket I'd write all fucking day long. __________________ Insert free thought here.