"He got on his knees and begged, ‘No, Daddy, no,’ and he pulled the trigger,"

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Rider

You really think that if the father was a molester he'd kill his kid for doing the same thing ? I see fail in your logic. Sure maybe the dad was crazy, but if my kid was a molester, I'd be tempted to do the same thing. Unlikely, but I'd give it thought.

Yea absolutely I do. First of all, it takes a certain type of mentality to execute your naked son in front of his mother. We can all talk about how we'd like to kill people that do horrible things, but few people are capable of carrying through with an execution style killing of a stranger, much less a loved one. To me this shows the father has some wires crossed somewhere.

Secondly, it is natural for humans to place the guilt of their own bad deeds onto others. Father molests or touches boy, boy gets older and touches girl, father is overcome with guilt he can not deal with so he places all the blame on the boy. If this were the scenario then it would follow suit that the father was molested as a boy as well. Child molestation is largely a vicious circle.

Its not like there is a big child molester's club (NAMBLA, lol) where they get together and talk about how they like fresh asshole. Most molesters feel great shame over their deeds but for whatever reason feel compelled to keep going. Those that do not are most likely sociopaths, and they make up a very small percentage of the population. A sociopath would not likely have enough emotional capacity to react in the way this father did...because he simply wouldn't care.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Statistically speaking, most molesters acquired the behaviour by being molested themselves. It is also common for people to react far more aggressively to behaviour that they see in themselves. That doesn't mean the father is a molester himself, but it bears looking into based on the cumulative experience in such cases.

No one wins in a situation like this. No one is a hero.

Agreed on all counts.

Molestation is often a power issue.

The fact that the Dad made him strip and them ordered him around before acting raises red flags (power struggles) as well.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by shmike

The fact that the Dad made him strip and them ordered him around before acting raises red flags (power struggles) as well.

Sounds like he wanted to humiliate his son like the son did to the 3 year old so he would know how it feels.

Maybe not...just another possibility.

Several of you guys make good points.

What a messed up situation.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Yea absolutely I do. First of all, it takes a certain type of mentality to execute your naked son in front of his mother. We can all talk about how we'd like to kill people that do horrible things, but few people are capable of carrying through with an execution style killing of a stranger, much less a loved one. To me this shows the father has some wires crossed somewhere.

Secondly, it is natural for humans to place the guilt of their own bad deeds onto others. Father molests or touches boy, boy gets older and touches girl, father is overcome with guilt he can not deal with so he places all the blame on the boy. If this were the scenario then it would follow suit that the father was molested as a boy as well. Child molestation is largely a vicious circle.

Its not like there is a big child molester's club (NAMBLA, lol) where they get together and talk about how they like fresh asshole. Most molesters feel great shame over their deeds but for whatever reason feel compelled to keep going. Those that do not are most likely sociopaths, and they make up a very small percentage of the population. A sociopath would not likely have enough emotional capacity to react in the way this father did...because he simply wouldn't care.

I see your point. Like mentioned above, the real loser in this case is the kids mom.

[RACER X]

Wow.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by shmike

Agreed on all counts.

Molestation is often a power issue.

The fact that the Dad made him strip and them ordered him around before acting raises red flags (power struggles) as well.

Well noted. Almost all sexually related crimes come down to power, rather than the sex itself.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Well noted. Almost all sexually related crimes come down to power, rather than the sex itself.

See, I've never understood this. I just can't imagine someone needing that much power over someone else.

[Dave]

if i had a child who so badly tarnished my honor id likely do the same thing, id do myself too for failing as a parent however

[azoomm]

Talking about this very story in the Orthodontist office today - most are surprised that the father didn't turn the gun on himself after. That it was a guilt issue [like some saying here].

[Rider]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Talking about this very story in the Orthodontist office today - most are surprised that the father didn't turn the gun on himself after. That it was a guilt issue [like some saying here].

Yeah in thinking about it, it could have been a way for the father to cover up what he might have done to his son years ago.