How to hang off the bike

[Trip]

When you get to the gap I will give you some pointers and follow you for a pass or two to see if I notice anything.

[ceo012384]

Originally Posted by Trip

and rotate your hips

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Rotate around the tank...

Originally Posted by DLIT

Basically, the tank is a pivot point

Whoa hold the presses here... you guys rotate your hips so they are at an angle to the bike other than 90 degrees?

I keep my hips square/perpendicular to the bike and my spine parallel with the bike.

Hanging off with your hips at an angle promotes a crossed-up body position and encourages bar pressure.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by ceo012384

Whoa hold the presses here... you guys rotate your hips so they are at an angle to the bike other than 90 degrees?

I keep my hips square/perpendicular to the bike and my spine parallel with the bike.

Hanging off with your hips at an angle promotes a crossed-up body position and encourages bar pressure.

You rotate around the tank and square your shoulders, not your hips. Apply pressure with your outside foot to the rearset and grip the tank with the inside of your outside leg to support your body. Minimal pressure is put on your arms at all. If you are in a left turn you should be able to remove your left hand all together and touch the ground if you so choose.

[ceo012384]

Originally Posted by Trip

You rotate around the tank and square your shoulders, not your hips.

In order to keep your body parallel to the bike's centerline (which you should be doing) you need to square both shoulders and hips, no?

The only person who should be rotating their hips and being crossed up is Mick Doohan because he was fast even though his body position was wack.

[Trip]

You aren't really effecting your spine, you are more or less rolling the hips around the tank. This also will get you away from that silly 90 degree from the bike knee look and more of a 45 degree angle where your knee should be. It's hard to explain in words and a lot easier to show in person. You should be all the way back in the seat and when you do this it actually kinda rolls your upper body right where it needs to be for the turn.

[DLIT]

Originally Posted by ceo012384

Whoa hold the presses here... you guys rotate your hips so they are at an angle to the bike other than 90 degrees?

I keep my hips square/perpendicular to the bike and my spine parallel with the bike.

Hanging off with your hips at an angle promotes a crossed-up body position and encourages bar pressure.

Not if you're holding your weight with your inside foot and knees, like you should be doing.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Trip

When you get to the gap I will give you some pointers and follow you for a pass or two to see if I notice anything.

sound good... can't fuck'n wait!

[rider76]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

sound good... can't fuck'n wait!

Trip.. you gonna meet up with Ebbs in sept?

[Mr Lefty]

yeah I'm riding up with Rae from her place in FL to Trips... a couple days after I meet up with you. i'm trying to get Drewpy to meet me in Eureka Spings, the place I was telling ya about

[ceo012384]

Originally Posted by Trip

You aren't really effecting your spine, you are more or less rolling the hips around the tank. This also will get you away from that silly 90 degree from the bike knee look and more of a 45 degree angle where your knee should be. It's hard to explain in words and a lot easier to show in person. You should be all the way back in the seat and when you do this it actually kinda rolls your upper body right where it needs to be for the turn.

Yeah that's what I do... but the way you were describing it it sounded like you were keeping your pelvis right against the tank which would twist your hips a shitload. The actual hip rotation is not very much at all... I think we're on the same page.

Although my legs are a lot shorter than yours so I stick them out more to let me know where I am, ya know? Then as I lean more I let the ground push my knee up and my leg goes forward a bit.

Originally Posted by DLIT

Not if you're holding your weight with your inside foot and knees, like you should be doing.

You should have weight on both feet, not just the inside... although that is a hotly debated topic.

Weight the inside during turn in... weight both during turn, weight outside post-apex while getting on the gas... least that's what I've heard from some TD instructors.