Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > Riding > Track > MotoGP

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-10-2010, 02:29 AM   #11
Amber Lamps
Moto GP Star
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 101lifts2 View Post
Ducati has had front end issues all year...and the bike was just not as stable as the Yammi or Honda.

Stoner and Lorenzo are gonna walk Rossi in '11.
Similar words were spoken when he went to Yamaha...
Amber Lamps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2010, 06:04 AM   #12
Mr Lefty
TWFix Legend
 
Mr Lefty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Denver CO
Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar
Posts: 15,677
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amber Lamps View Post
Similar words were spoken when he went to Yamaha...
that's exactly what crossed my mind when I read that!

I think the most underrated part of Rossi(and JB) is how he develops the bike... I mean look how quick he turn the Yami around in just the off season the first year on the bike.
Mr Lefty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2010, 08:54 AM   #13
Amber Lamps
Moto GP Star
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eBBs15 View Post
that's exactly what crossed my mind when I read that!

I think the most underrated part of Rossi(and JB) is how he develops the bike... I mean look how quick he turn the Yami around in just the off season the first year on the bike.
Everyone said that it was impossible to win on the Yamaha but Rossi did it. Heck, that's been a going theme in MotoGp for as long as I've watched it. There have always been "non-ridable"/"non-competitive" bikes that some special rider manages to win on. Even Casey Moaner is an example of this.
Amber Lamps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2010, 10:00 AM   #14
defector
My balls, your chin
 
defector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: The desert of Az
Moto: 929, SV650, YZ250
Posts: 1,917
Default

Goddam I love the sound of that bike.
__________________
Reading this signature may give you special powers, including the ability to run through walls. You should try it immediately.
defector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2010, 01:54 PM   #15
Porkchop
125GP Champion
 
Porkchop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Worthington, OH
Moto: Empty Garage
Posts: 3,418
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amber Lamps View Post
Everyone said that it was impossible to win on the Yamaha but Rossi did it. Heck, that's been a going theme in MotoGp for as long as I've watched it. There have always been "non-ridable"/"non-competitive" bikes that some special rider manages to win on. Even Casey Moaner is an example of this.
Casey Moaner won on an 800.... not a 990. The 990 was the bike that no one could tame....
__________________
*Coming soon?
2010 Ducati Monster 696 - Sold
1984 Honda VF500F - Sold
1999 Yamaha R6 - Sold
Porkchop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2010, 03:08 PM   #16
Dave
Chaotic Neutral
 
Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Cherry Hill NJ
Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt
Posts: 13,992
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eBBs15 View Post
that's exactly what crossed my mind when I read that!

I think the most underrated part of Rossi(and JB) is how he develops the bike... I mean look how quick he turn the Yami around in just the off season the first year on the bike.
Somehow I doubt it was valentino himself who yanked the carbs for fuel injection and tossed the 180* crank in favor of a crossplane.
Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2010, 03:33 PM   #17
fasternyou929
SFL Expatriate #2
 
fasternyou929's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Raleigh, NC
Moto: CBR1000
Posts: 2,043
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave View Post
Somehow I doubt it was valentino himself who yanked the carbs for fuel injection and tossed the 180* crank in favor of a crossplane.
While he's not an engineer, he gives the inputs that drive the engineers to make specific impovements:

Front end and chassis stability under braking and throughout a turn
Smooth, predictable power delivery
How well are the traction control and wheelie control electronics working
How well does the bike tip-in
etc.
fasternyou929 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2010, 05:39 PM   #18
Dave
Chaotic Neutral
 
Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Cherry Hill NJ
Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt
Posts: 13,992
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fasternyou929 View Post
While he's not an engineer, he gives the inputs that drive the engineers to make specific impovements:

Front end and chassis stability under braking and throughout a turn
Smooth, predictable power delivery
How well are the traction control and wheelie control electronics working
How well does the bike tip-in
etc.
Right, and I get that. But he isint making hardware decisions and yamaha made some big ones that year
Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2010, 06:37 PM   #19
fnfalman
Europhile
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SoCal
Moto: Aprilia RS125, Aprilia SR50 Factory, Aprilia Tuono, BMW Rockster, KTM 990 Adventure
Posts: 1,875
Default

Hell, everybody said that Stoner was the man and the Duck was the bike after the first year's slaughter. Then comes next year and the year after that...neither Stoner was the man nor the Duck was the bike.
__________________
Cogito Ergo Vroom - I think therefore I ride

fnfalman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2010, 09:42 PM   #20
Porkchop
125GP Champion
 
Porkchop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Worthington, OH
Moto: Empty Garage
Posts: 3,418
Default

Quote:
VALENCIA, SPAIN, NOV 9 - Nicky Hayden and new teammate Valentino Rossi spent the first of two days of testing trying to pick an engine. The choice for 2011 is the big bang or screamer firing order and both were put into service. Hayden was faster on the big bang, but liked the screamer, and said there was more work to do before making a decision.

Hayden said that if he was "racing tomorrow we'd choose big bang, because obviously I've been riding it all year. I'm a bit more comfortable on it. Though the screamer I enjoyed riding a lot. Was, the sound was amazing. I mean, probably the best sounding bike I've ever ridden. And the feeling, when you open the throttle it had some drive and was really responsive. I enjoyed riding it a lot, but it was a bit aggressive.
Quote:
Filippo Preziosi, the genius behind the Ducati race team, said the main goal of the test is to decide the firing order for next year. Ducati has prepared three bikes; one is a GP10 bike with the big bang engine, that is more or less the bike that raced on Sunday, one is a GP11 with a revised version of the Big Bang engine, and the other is the screamer. The plan is to start with the GP11 big bang engine, make minimal chassis changes, then jump on the other GP11 to start the direct comparison. Preziosi said that such a test should be undertaken in private, but that's not possible, so he asked Rossi for a favor. Rather than search for the day's best lap time, Rossi's brief is to concentrate on the two engines.
Sounds like they might be staying with the revised big bang...
__________________
*Coming soon?
2010 Ducati Monster 696 - Sold
1984 Honda VF500F - Sold
1999 Yamaha R6 - Sold
Porkchop is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:15 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.