What is the best nickname for the decade just ending? - Page 2

Avatard · 12-30-2009, 11:30 AM

The Fed is.

Avatard · 12-30-2009, 12:22 PM

Nope:

Who really owns the FED? The Rothschilds of London and Berlin; Lazard Brothers of Paris; Israel Moses Seif of Italy; Kuhn, Loeb and Warburg of Germany; and the Lehman Brothers, Goldman, Sachs and the Rockefeller families of New York.

The FED is the only for-profit corporation in America that is exempt from both federal and state taxes. The FED takes in about one trillion dollars per year tax free! The banking families listed above get all that money. Forty cents in every dollar of US taxes.

The Supreme Court has ruled that the Federal Reserve is independent of the government and privately owned.

The Federal Reserve is owned by its member banks. The next question is, who owns the member banks? That is a complicated question because of the holding companies, etc.

It is historic fact that the plan for the Federal Reserve was created by banking interests in great secrecy at Jekyl Island in 1910. J.P. Morgan and Paul Warburg were the primary architects. Political impetus for this action came from the Money Panic 1907.

Those member banks of the Federal Reserve are now using the funds from the bailout to buy out privately owned banks. This is in violation of the act (or law) that congress passed to allocate those funds. It is also a conflict of interest that Treasury Secretary Paulson comes from the same financial cabal that runs those member banks and the Federal Reserve.

Since the operations of the Federal Reserve are secret, have no active congressional oversight, and are not audited by the GAO or the IRS, there is no way to protect the economic interests of the American People.

shmike · 12-30-2009, 12:37 PM

When copy and pasting, it is polite to cite your references.

Otherwise you just look like a tin-foil plagiarist.

Avatard · 12-30-2009, 12:40 PM

No problem:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_contro...ederal_Reserve

I just copied the parts I thought were most relevant to your statement, since this isn't exactly the core subject of the thread.

shmike · 12-30-2009, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avatard

No problem:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_contro...ederal_Reserve

I just copied the parts I thought were most relevant to your statement, since this isn't exactly the core subject of the thread.

That's funny.

According to your link, NOBODY owns the Fed.

Quote:

The Federal Reserve is chartered by the US Government. Nobody owns the the Federal Reserve. The Congress at any time can revoke the charter of the Fed. All the funding of the operations of the Federal Reserve comes from the US Treasury.

I know the words you posted were also contianed in that link but you had to do some slicing and dicing to get there.

Very FoxNews-like of you.

101 would be proud.

Avatard · 12-30-2009, 12:58 PM

Well, it would appear that you too are being selective.

Subtle words games like "Charter Members" are at play here.

The bankers I listed are in fact those on the Fed (mostly International), and the Fed is in fact a private bank entity, operating outside of the jurisdiction of the US Government.

Of course, any "member" might get their "charter" revoked, but I think even you know the likelihood of that.

Homeslice · 12-30-2009, 02:26 PM

And being a charter member means they rake in all the profits? Somehow I'm not seeing the connection. Is this another one of those Illuminati conspiracies?

And wiki.answers.com? Never heard of them. What you copy/pasted would never pass muster on Wikipedia, because the statements are too opinionated rather than sticking to the facts.

Avatard · 12-30-2009, 02:30 PM

Well, then do some more Googling on your own, and report back what you find.

The fact is that the US government shrouds the Fed in secrecy. I don't believe you will find explicit references to accepted legal documents disclosing this info.

Homeslice · 12-30-2009, 02:32 PM

Could be. But, what is the significance of the charter members? Are people trying to say that these people get together in some secret clubroom to plot the course of world events?

Avatard · 12-30-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Could be. But, what is the significance of the charter members? Are people trying to say that these people get together in some secret clubroom to plot the course of world events?

Jes, Jew got it meng. The Fed was in fact FORMED at a SECRET OFFSHORE MEETING of UNDISCLOSED BANKERS. "World Leaders" are just figureheads. Bankers run the show, ultimately.

12-30-2009, 11:30 AM	#1
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	The Fed is. __________________ Insert free thought here.

12-30-2009, 12:22 PM	#2
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Nope: Who really owns the FED? The Rothschilds of London and Berlin; Lazard Brothers of Paris; Israel Moses Seif of Italy; Kuhn, Loeb and Warburg of Germany; and the Lehman Brothers, Goldman, Sachs and the Rockefeller families of New York. The FED is the only for-profit corporation in America that is exempt from both federal and state taxes. The FED takes in about one trillion dollars per year tax free! The banking families listed above get all that money. Forty cents in every dollar of US taxes. The Supreme Court has ruled that the Federal Reserve is independent of the government and privately owned. The Federal Reserve is owned by its member banks. The next question is, who owns the member banks? That is a complicated question because of the holding companies, etc. It is historic fact that the plan for the Federal Reserve was created by banking interests in great secrecy at Jekyl Island in 1910. J.P. Morgan and Paul Warburg were the primary architects. Political impetus for this action came from the Money Panic 1907. Those member banks of the Federal Reserve are now using the funds from the bailout to buy out privately owned banks. This is in violation of the act (or law) that congress passed to allocate those funds. It is also a conflict of interest that Treasury Secretary Paulson comes from the same financial cabal that runs those member banks and the Federal Reserve. Since the operations of the Federal Reserve are secret, have no active congressional oversight, and are not audited by the GAO or the IRS, there is no way to protect the economic interests of the American People. __________________ Insert free thought here. Last edited by Avatard; 12-30-2009 at 12:27 PM..

12-30-2009, 12:37 PM	#3
shmike Follower Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,549	When copy and pasting, it is polite to cite your references. Otherwise you just look like a tin-foil plagiarist. __________________ Racing For Smiles

12-30-2009, 12:40 PM	#4
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	No problem: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_contro...ederal_Reserve I just copied the parts I thought were most relevant to your statement, since this isn't exactly the core subject of the thread. __________________ Insert free thought here.

12-30-2009, 12:58 PM	#6
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Owns? Well, it would appear that you too are being selective. Subtle words games like "Charter Members" are at play here. The bankers I listed are in fact those on the Fed (mostly International), and the Fed is in fact a private bank entity, operating outside of the jurisdiction of the US Government. Of course, any "member" might get their "charter" revoked, but I think even you know the likelihood of that. __________________ Insert free thought here.

12-30-2009, 02:26 PM	#7
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	And being a charter member means they rake in all the profits? Somehow I'm not seeing the connection. Is this another one of those Illuminati conspiracies? And wiki.answers.com? Never heard of them. What you copy/pasted would never pass muster on Wikipedia, because the statements are too opinionated rather than sticking to the facts.

12-30-2009, 02:30 PM	#8
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Well, then do some more Googling on your own, and report back what you find. The fact is that the US government shrouds the Fed in secrecy. I don't believe you will find explicit references to accepted legal documents disclosing this info. __________________ Insert free thought here.

12-30-2009, 02:32 PM	#9
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Could be. But, what is the significance of the charter members? Are people trying to say that these people get together in some secret clubroom to plot the course of world events?