Congresswoman shot in Arizona

[goof2]

Not surprising.

[Rangerscott]

Ya'll think the Glifford family is gonna hold the dad responsible?

[derf]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Ya'll think the Glifford family is gonna hold the dad responsible?

No, she's a politician and hes a astronaut, they understand good and bad publicity, and holding the parents responsible would turn into bad publicity, especially without concrete proof. Maybe a few comments about his parents and his upbringing in the book the congressman is gonna write eventually about this but that should be it. As a dem she is gonna go holier than thou on gun control though, wouldnt surprise me to see some states require a psych eval before you can purchase a gun.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by derf

No, she's a politician and hes a astronaut, they understand good and bad publicity, and holding the parents responsible would turn into bad publicity, especially without concrete proof. Maybe a few comments about his parents and his upbringing in the book the congressman is gonna write eventually about this but that should be it. As a dem she is gonna go holier than thou on gun control though, wouldnt surprise me to see some states require a psych eval before you can purchase a gun.

I agree with most of this, but she may not go for the gun control thing. From what I understand she has been about as pro-gun as a Democrat is going to get. I figure its about 30/70 odds Giffords introduces gun control legislation named after Christina Green. I would put better odds, maybe 60/40, that if Giffords has most of her faculties after she recovers she will be running against Kyl for his Senate seat in 2012.

[pauldun170]

http://tv.gawker.com/5732292/jon-ste...izona-shooting

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

The problem is that, after a human bomb like this guy goes off, suddenly EVERYONE says that they saw the warning signs. If they did, then why didn't they do something about it? Try to get some help for the person. Inform the authorities. Something.

Truth is that they just want their Warhol 15 minutes.

Ennnnhhhh, not so much, as it turns out.

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...h-intervention

He was apparently already causing considerable alarm.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Ennnnhhhh, not so much, as it turns out.

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...h-intervention

He was apparently already causing considerable alarm.

Then this case is pretty different from the norm, and someone seriously dropped the ball.

[Archren]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Then this case is pretty different from the norm, and someone seriously dropped the ball.

Sounds akin to the Fort Hood shooter. Signs all over the place, but no one wanted to rock the boat and send the guy to mental health counseling.

Not sure that it would have been productive in this case - particularly since the kid had a "me vs. them" mentality, and any attempt to try and get through to him would probably have been dismissed.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Archren

Sounds akin to the Fort Hood shooter. Signs all over the place, but no one wanted to rock the boat and send the guy to mental health counseling.

Not sure that it would have been productive in this case - particularly since the kid had a "me vs. them" mentality, and any attempt to try and get through to him would probably have been dismissed.

There was a shooter at Fort Hood? Oh yea that's right....that one kinda got swept under the rug eh?

[derf]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

There was a shooter at Fort Hood? Oh yea that's right....that one kinda got swept under the rug eh?

Dude hasn't even been tried yet