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Old 05-06-2009, 02:30 PM   #21
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lol a lot of illegal motorcycles will be on the street
Every motorcycle on the street running an exhaust without a DOT approved stamp is already illegal...in every state

This has nothing to do with pollution and everything to do with cash for the government coffers
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:14 PM   #22
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This has nothing to do with pollution and everything to do with cash for the government coffers
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:23 PM   #23
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Explain to me where the government makes money on this? You, the driver, pay for a smog check until you pass. The payment goes to the business doing the smog check, not the gov't. A cop can't give you a smog ticket because he can't check the emissions levels.

The article was quite clear: motorcycles are used for 1% of the total mileage but emit 10% of the total pollution. It's obvious something needs to be done to make them cleaner.

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Old 05-06-2009, 05:27 PM   #24
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Every motorcycle on the street running an exhaust without a DOT approved stamp is already illegal...in every state

This has nothing to do with pollution and everything to do with cash for the government coffers
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:35 PM   #25
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I grew up in LA. Smog inspections are ridiculous. One of my first cars was a Nissan 260Z. I had a triple Weber carb set up on it so I could not run the stock thermostatic air cleaner on it and I would fail the emissions automatically on a visual check. It was a huge hassle. I had to go to a "referee" station 20 miles from where I lived and I had to have them look at it. Eventually it got a waiver because the car was a certain age(at the time the car was 13 years old) plus to go back to the stock set up it would have cost over $500. It's a joke, the money goes to the state of California with the smog inspection station getting a nominal fee. Don't kid yourself by thinking the state has no financial gain on emission inspections.
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:38 PM   #26
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Two of my three bikes have exhaust systems that are not street legal anywhere in the world. Guess what- I don't care.

If you don't like it, you're welcome to follow me around and inhale the exhaust yourself to keep it from damaging the environment.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:16 PM   #27
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Explain to me where the government makes money on this? You, the driver, pay for a smog check until you pass. The payment goes to the business doing the smog check, not the gov't. A cop can't give you a smog ticket because he can't check the emissions levels.

The article was quite clear: motorcycles are used for 1% of the total mileage but emit 10% of the total pollution. It's obvious something needs to be done to make them cleaner.

You don't get a State Inspection Sticker?
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:27 PM   #28
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I grew up in LA also. I remember the brown air.

They charge enough to pay for the system itself. I assume you are an expert in the CA smog process?

The actual rule: Standard CA Smog Fee of $8.25 plus the dealer may not charge more than an additional $50. Sounds to me like the inspector is the one getting the bulk of the fee. That's $4/yr/vehicle.

The brown air is mostly gone now due in part to that $8.25 fee.


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Old 05-06-2009, 08:41 PM   #29
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I love living in the country. No smog inspections here and no smog. I remember our neighboring counties where bitching at us and one of our politicians mentioned how wind usually travels from west to east (we are east of Atlanta) and that we'd be glad to put up some giant fans and blow their shit back to them.

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Old 05-06-2009, 09:47 PM   #30
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The article was quite clear: motorcycles are used for 1% of the total mileage but emit 10% of the total pollution. It's obvious something needs to be done to make them cleaner.
can you explain how they know that %? they already said they don't check them so how do they know?
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