2yrs for texting and killing

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I am calling bs to that one, but whatever.

I'd be willing to bet that most people only have 1 hand on the wheel the majority of the time. Therefore, holding a cellphone isn't all that bad except for the conversation/distraction bit. And you would be just as distracted by a handsfree call as you would be a handheld call.

First, a reference to a more well-known grocery chain (not Piggly Wiggly ) might have helped make your point better

Second, well I guess you got me there

Check the citations. I've read several of the referenced studies.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/dri...830105036.html

Try venturing east of the Mississippi and south of the Mason/Dixon sometime. You might even find that you like pork rinds and Hardee's.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I am calling bs to that one, but whatever.

I'd be willing to bet that most people only have 1 hand on the wheel the majority of the time. Therefore, holding a cellphone isn't all that bad except for the conversation/distraction bit. And you would be just as distracted by a handsfree call as you would be a handheld call.

I don't care if people drive with one hand. I'm more concerned about what the non-driving hand is blocking. Most of the people I see yakking on cell phones, have the phone up to their left ear. In that position, your peripheral vision is compromised, and you don't have the same range of motion on that side.

Try putting your left hand up to your ear, and turning your head to the left, all you're going to see is your elbow.

I don't ride an elbow, so that's no fucking help to me at all.

Originally Posted by Homeslice

First, a reference to a more well-known grocery chain (not Piggly Wiggly ) might have helped make your point better

Piggly Wiggly rocks, just for the name alone.

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Second, well I guess you got me there

No shit.

JC

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

I don't care if people drive with one hand. I'm more concerned about what the non-driving hand is blocking. Most of the people I see yakking on cell phones, have the phone up to their left ear. In that position, your peripheral vision is compromised, and you don't have the same range of motion on that side.

...., and you never even try to touch the turn signal.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

...., and you never even try to touch the turn signal.

That's a given.

If you see a car with it's signals on around here, they bought it that way.

JC

[azoomm]

While in Detroit on a BMW demo, there was a woman that blocked our demo route going 20mph in a 45. She was simply talking on the phone.

I pulled up next to her, threw on the lights on the RTP and yelled at her to hang up. She pulled over, and probably peed a little.

The cops on site told me they will try that in the future

[Rangerscott]

Instead of prison I would have had him pay "family support" for X amount of years.

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by azoomm

While in Detroit on a BMW demo, there was a woman that blocked our demo route going 20mph in a 45. She was simply talking on the phone.

I pulled up next to her, threw on the lights on the RTP and yelled at her to hang up. She pulled over, and probably peed a little.

The cops on site told me they will try that in the future

What is this RTP that lets you shine lights at cars beside you?

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

What is this RTP that lets you shine lights at cars beside you?

BMW r1200rt-p. P meaning police model. It has all the lights and sirens. Fancy.

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by azoomm

While in Detroit on a BMW demo, there was a woman that blocked our demo route going 20mph in a 45. She was simply talking on the phone.

I pulled up next to her, threw on the lights on the RTP and yelled at her to hang up. She pulled over, and probably peed a little.

The cops on site told me they will try that in the future

Awesome!

On the thread topic... I think if you can talk and/or text and/or do your taxes while driving then so be it. I hate MORE laws.

However, if you are caught by a cop having such actions affect your driving or if you cause an accident by doing such, you should be held accountable to the degree of what you did, neglagence at the least. If you were texting and killed a person you should be held up for manslaughter or maybe murder 2 or 3.

My opinion is based on my hatred for more laws restricting us as free adults. Further, as a driver that gets numerous annual training at work for driving alone. I could probably do my taxes on my cell phone and still drive better than the average out here on the roads.

However, I know there is no happy medium for all of us... and realize that the masses will probably win here and they'll start making some stupid laws with cell phones and driving.

['73 H1 Triple]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Awesome!

On the thread topic... I think if you can talk and/or text and/or do your taxes while driving then so be it. I hate MORE laws.

However, if you are caught by a cop having such actions affect your driving or if you cause an accident by doing such, you should be held accountable to the degree of what you did, neglagence at the least. If you were texting and killed a person you should be held up for manslaughter or maybe murder 2 or 3.

My opinion is based on my hatred for more laws restricting us as free adults. Further, as a driver that gets numerous annual training at work for driving alone. I could probably do my taxes on my cell phone and still drive better than the average out here on the roads.

However, I know there is no happy medium for all of us... and realize that the masses will probably win here and they'll start making some stupid laws with cell phones and driving.

It comes down to lack of personal accountibility. Nobody ( hardly anyone ) takes responsibility for their own actions.

Stupid enough to put a cup of hot coffee in your lap? Sue McDonalds because you're an idiot.

Stupid enough to stand on the top of a ladder and pull on something too hard and fall? Sue the ladder company because they didn't put a warning label on it to protect yourself from you.

We're surrounded by assholes and not only do they work and live among us, they reproduce.