Nobody likes your kids...

[derf]

My kids dont need to be spanked any more, with my 6 year old its relatively new development, my 11 year old hasnt needed it for a few years. WWith either of them all i have to do is make an angry face and they get in line. My son (6) still continues to cry past what I would consider Ok and all I have to do is raise my voice a little and make a quick threat and he quiets down.

Yes they got hit when they needed hitting

[the chi]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

So why shouldn't spanking be the first step? For proper discipline it should be consistent, memorable, and immediate. Kid stepping out of line? One quick smack and a little temporary pain, and it'll stop. The kid learns, quickly, what isn't acceptable behaviour.

That's what I got, and I turned out to be a fairly stable, contributing member of society. My sister got all of that 1970s-style "Free to Be, You and Me" bullshit and rarely received punishment, and she's an arrogant, selfish, manipulative bitch. My parents learnt their lesson, before my brother came along five years later, and he's pretty well adjusted too.

The damage is done quickly, and very early in life.

Sounds like me and my sisters, but both of them got the "Im too tired to deal with you" kinda discipline. Which resulted in being brought home by the cops, anger management issues, shitty grades, blah blah, etc. I got the calls asking if I wanted them to come live with me. Fuck no, I told you you shoulda beat their asses and punished them like you over punished me. I spent entire summers grounded for mouthing off. Not stealing, not lying, not fighting. Talking back. I got in trouble for not cleaning the kitchen right. At 9 years old. Having to use a fucking step stool. My room was subjected to white glove clean tests. I was made to kneel in the corner on hard floors for talking back. For an hour or more at a time. (Once I got it all the way up to 5 hours, but they actually let me off with only an hour or 2, split into 2 sessions. I was gonna have my damn say if it killed me. At least they didnt use the rice, right?!)

You think my sisters ever did chores? Or got decent grades? Ever cleaned their rooms? Or did much of anything? HA. No they screamed at my parents that they werent going to do it, and sure enough, rarely did. They hit my parents, broke shit, did whatever they hell they wanted and want still.

They are the reason I pretty much dislike kids. And never really wnted one of my own. I did everything but give birth but wasmt allowed to discipline while my parents worked. Thus why I got multiple jobs and moved out at 19.

I'm a big fan of putting the fear of god in kids early, no matter what it takes. My parents may have over done it with me, but I damn sure turned into a responsible and contributing citizen too (and only a LITTLE bitter ).

[defector]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Kid stepping out of line? One quick smack and a little temporary pain, and it'll stop.

Guess you didn't get the memo...the mental anguish lasts forever. (Or until therapy, whichever comes first).
I am curious as to when this mentality took over. Early to mid 80's possibly?

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

So why shouldn't spanking be the first step?

It absolutely should be. If you do it right a couple of times you'll probably never have to do it again.

Spankings are going to be a thing of the past. Even in Texas they it is becoming illegal to spank your kids barehanded without leaving bruises.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by defector

Guess you didn't get the memo...the mental anguish lasts forever. (Or until therapy, whichever comes first).
I am curious as to when this mentality took over. Early to mid 80's possibly?

Wasn't it the Dr. Spock book that did it?

[OneSickPsycho]

I have a tendency to stare down kids who are annoying... rambunctious, staring, or otherwise. It makes ONSSP uncomfortable sometimes...

Last night at dinner... there was a kid, probably about 2-3 years old... shreiked once... That I can handle... Kids will be kids and the parents handled him immediately. Right next to us there was a guy with two little girls... they were playing with their food and whatnot, but were quiet, not staring, and not running around the place. That's the way parents and kids should be.

[Kaneman]

Sometimes I want to slip my son a $10 and point out kids for him to rear naked choke.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Sometimes I want to slip my son a $10 and point out kids for him to rear naked choke.

Funny... I have $10 in my wallet right now...

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by defector

Guess you didn't get the memo...the mental anguish lasts forever. (Or until therapy, whichever comes first).
I am curious as to when this mentality took over. Early to mid 80's possibly?

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Wasn't it the Dr. Spock book that did it?

Must be, 'cause Mr. Spock woulda just nerve pinched 'em out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYdczjhGvg8

[the chi]

I'm curious about this whole spanking thing. I've gotten a few in my time and they never once left bruises. Wouldnt leaving bruises be considered abuse? You can spank them without leaving bruises and still get their attention.

Different Spock man...