Aprilia RSV4/BMW S1000RR demo ride - Page 3

smileyman · 06-28-2010, 12:33 PM

Not happy that he was on a Rebel 250? That would be motivation for devil may care aggression...

Trip · 06-28-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Not happy that he was on a Rebel 250? That would be motivation for devil may care aggression...

I was on psychochild's rebel 250 trying it out at the gap. I came up on a gixxer 1000. He would gun it in the straights to keep me behind him. We came up to a particularily tight section of the gap that I know well because it's my favorite section. I used it as an opportunity to out brake him into a corner and pass him. He came screaming around me when we got to local straight, but by then, the damage was done, he got passed by a 250 cruiser.

smileyman · 06-28-2010, 12:44 PM

LOL! Thats what happens when guys up the cc to soon. You get corner parking HP/acceleration addicts.

I hounded a CBR 954 at a CMRA Endurance Round at TWS once. He would rocket by on the long front strecth, I would reel him coming off the banking under brakes, then pass him in the road course section of the infield. Different places but he was obviously getting worn out when it should have been the other way around.

He finally had to pit to refuel that thirsty beast and I got to laugh...

No Worries · 06-28-2010, 03:10 PM

My old liter bike has less HP than any of the new 600's. It has a steel frame, twin shocks, forks the thickness of a broom stick, skinny bias-ply tires, an air-cooled engine, two-valves per cylinder, an ignition curve done by springs and weights, and small carburetors.

But my liter bike has something in abundance that is never mentioned when comparing 600's and 1000's. Torque, and tons of it. My torque peak is at 6,500. That's usable all day long for the streets and backroads where I ride.

And I also rode the S1000RR. The brakes were awesome, and it was ungodly quick and fast, but my old Suzuki is way easier to toss around corners. If I had a rich uncle who gave me an RR, I would modify the handlebars to make them much higher, wider and further back. Then watch out.

Homeslice · 06-29-2010, 12:04 AM

If a liter bike isn't needed for the street, neither is a 600, or even a 250 for that matter. Go to Europe where people commute on 125's every day of the week.

Amber Lamps · 06-29-2010, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

If a liter bike isn't needed for the street, neither is a 600, or even a 250 for that matter. Go to Europe where people commute on 125's every day of the week.

Hell, go to Korea where they ride bicycles...

Trip · 06-29-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

If a liter bike isn't needed for the street, neither is a 600, or even a 250 for that matter. Go to Europe where people commute on 125's every day of the week.

For the US, something bigger is needed than Europe with our use of interstate. Probably around a 400 is about where we would need to be for needed. A 250 isn't very adept to running interstate speeds. I believe Japan already has this size on the market too.

smileyman · 06-29-2010, 10:36 AM

Well not to dip into the base threadjacking arguments again but no neither 600s or 1000s are needed...Just desired. Beating my 'right tool for the task' horse again.

We're 'muricans dammit, if a thou exists we want 1800. If it puts down 200 hp we find a way to turbo/supercharge/nitro it into BIG hp. Nothing wrong with that but some riders see a challenge in less is more, even an ego stroke to get it done that way. Just like some riders get stroked sittting on the biggest and bestest.

Now back on topic, I was reading Sportriders liter comparo andthey were somewhat underwhelmed at the base model RSV4 at 16 large didn't have anywhere the composure of the Factory at 21,000. The BMW base without so much electronics may be the better budget rocket. Although the one they tested against the other manufacturers was fully loaded...

Trip · 06-29-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

The BMW base without so much electronics may be the better budget rocket. Although the one they tested against the other manufacturers was fully loaded...

The fully loaded one is only like 2k more. It's not a drastic leap in price. So they aren't shipping many stripped down versions over here because people don't want them, they want all the tech.

marko138 · 06-29-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip

The fully loaded one is only like 2k more. It's not a drastic leap in price. So they aren't shipping many stripped down versions over here because people don't want them, they want all the tech.

Makes sense to me. Especially for only that much more $.

06-28-2010, 12:33 PM	#1
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Not happy that he was on a Rebel 250? That would be motivation for devil may care aggression... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

06-28-2010, 12:44 PM	#3
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	LOL! Thats what happens when guys up the cc to soon. You get corner parking HP/acceleration addicts. I hounded a CBR 954 at a CMRA Endurance Round at TWS once. He would rocket by on the long front strecth, I would reel him coming off the banking under brakes, then pass him in the road course section of the infield. Different places but he was obviously getting worn out when it should have been the other way around. He finally had to pit to refuel that thirsty beast and I got to laugh... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

06-29-2010, 10:36 AM	#8
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Well not to dip into the base threadjacking arguments again but no neither 600s or 1000s are needed...Just desired. Beating my 'right tool for the task' horse again. We're 'muricans dammit, if a thou exists we want 1800. If it puts down 200 hp we find a way to turbo/supercharge/nitro it into BIG hp. Nothing wrong with that but some riders see a challenge in less is more, even an ego stroke to get it done that way. Just like some riders get stroked sittting on the biggest and bestest. Now back on topic, I was reading Sportriders liter comparo andthey were somewhat underwhelmed at the base model RSV4 at 16 large didn't have anywhere the composure of the Factory at 21,000. The BMW base without so much electronics may be the better budget rocket. Although the one they tested against the other manufacturers was fully loaded... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst! Last edited by smileyman; 06-29-2010 at 10:40 AM..

06-28-2010, 03:10 PM	#4
No Worries Keyboard Racer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mile High City Moto: Old Superbikes Posts: 1,016	My old liter bike has less HP than any of the new 600's. It has a steel frame, twin shocks, forks the thickness of a broom stick, skinny bias-ply tires, an air-cooled engine, two-valves per cylinder, an ignition curve done by springs and weights, and small carburetors. But my liter bike has something in abundance that is never mentioned when comparing 600's and 1000's. Torque, and tons of it. My torque peak is at 6,500. That's usable all day long for the streets and backroads where I ride. And I also rode the S1000RR. The brakes were awesome, and it was ungodly quick and fast, but my old Suzuki is way easier to toss around corners. If I had a rich uncle who gave me an RR, I would modify the handlebars to make them much higher, wider and further back. Then watch out.

06-29-2010, 12:04 AM	#5
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	If a liter bike isn't needed for the street, neither is a 600, or even a 250 for that matter. Go to Europe where people commute on 125's every day of the week.