gov't intervention, thats whats for lunch today

[shmike]

The mother added,... I’ve even wrote a note to her teachers and said do not give my daughter anything else unless it comes out of her lunchbox and they are still going against me and putting a milk in front of her every day.

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[EpyonXero]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Rhetorical nonsense and you know it. There is a difference between dictating every minor behavior of a person who utilizes a government program and dictating the acceptable uses of government money. No one cries about Pell Grants being only applicable to university fees. But support restrictions on welfare money and all of a sudden I'm trying to own poor people? Sell that crap somewhere else.

That being said, I have less of a problem with the story if the school simply provides a lunch. Providing a whole other meal to a student who already has a meal is just a waste of money, not a violation of rights. Forcing the students to eat one thing or another is a different matter, and not apparently what happened in this case.

However, if they actually try to force the parents to pay for an arbitrarily-provided extra lunch when the parents have already provided a lunch, that crosses the line.

Whenever welfare comes up theres a common theme that these people are using "my" money and therefore should follow my rules. Nobody has a problem with the government intervening to decide where the recipients spend their money. This is obviously a different situation but its still an instance of the government making rules that only apply to patrons of a particular government sponsored program.

Im just speculating but Ill bet that at some point a study showed that the children most likely to participate in this type of free preschool program are also the most at risk for obesity or other diet related diseases so they decided to add dietary requirements for everyone that participates. Thats a lot like what happened in Florida when they decided that all welfare recipients must take a drug test to get benefits.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by shmike

That's fine if the inspector wants to assess the school lunches.

Why was she digging through a 4 year old's home-packed lunch?

Digging or just walking around the lunchroom taking notes?

[Homeslice]

Is this a federal inspector or state? If federal, that's BS and a waste of money IMO.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Digging or just walking around the lunchroom taking notes?

Does it matter?

[pauldun170]

The More at Four Evaluation Team of the FPG Child Development Institute conducted the statewide evaluation of North Carolina's More at Four Pre-kindergarten Program during its operation from 2001-2011. More at Four was a state-funded pre-kindergarten program designed to prepare at-risk four-year-olds for success in school.

The More at Four Evaluation team at the FPG Child Development Institute served as the external evaluator for the North Carolina More at Four Program during its 10 years of operation. We gathered information each year to evaluate the program’s effectiveness and to provide data for program improvement.

Major research questions included:

Who was served by the More at Four Program?
What were the characteristics and quality of the services provided?
What were the outcomes of children attending these programs?
What factors were associated with better outcomes for children?
To what extent have there been changes over time?

The evaluation provided a "big-picture" look at the statewide program as a whole, and included varying data each year from a variety of sources. The types of evaluation information gathered included assessments of children's development, observations of classroom quality and curriculum implementation, and monthly reports of program services.

http://www.fpg.unc.edu/~mafeval/pages/publications.cfm

The More at Four Pre-Kindergarten Program is a high-quality pre-k program that serves children who are at
risk and prepares them for success in school. Pre-kindergarten is a research-proven strategy for school
readiness.
Children served by More at Four attend a full school day, full school year program that meets high-quality
state standards. The program is community based. It is integrated with other early childhood programs in the
community and administered at the county or regional level. Children participating in More at Four may be
served in classrooms in the public schools, licensed child care centers or Head Start programs.
The More at Four program is especially beneficial for those children most at risk of school failure. According to
independent evaluation findings by the FPG Child Development Institute, University of North Carolina at
Chapel Hill, children served by More at Four exhibit substantial growth in key areas including language,
literacy, math and social skills.

Eligibility
The program serves children who are four years old by August 31, will be entering kindergarten the following
year, and are at risk for poor school outcomes. Factors that put children at risk for poor school outcomes
include low income, limited English proficiency, identified disability, chronic health condition and
developmental or educational need.

The program is
community-based, voluntary, and designed to prepare at-risk four-year-olds in North Carolina for
success in school.

If this mother is so fucking upset then take her child out of this voluntary program established to help her and her child out.

[pauldun170]

So to summarize the story.

Mom packs a shitty lunch for her shitty kid and sends her off to retard school.
the retard school program was established because guilt ridden people with normal kids thought something needed to be done for all the stupid poor people who couldn't afford to send their kids off to therapists and were worried that all the little poor retard kids would make start rubbing off on the normal kids.

Win win where poor people could drop off their kid at a free babysitter that would also help them with school and make sure they get a good meal.

Person checking up on the school see's little girl with a crappy lunch and gives her an approved lunch. (poor people with their sugar drinks...)

Mother gets "Oh noes they diddant" and shoots gift horse in face.

FoxNews reports Obama sends political appointee to take little girls lunch and replace it with fried chicken prepared by Hillary Clinton who then sends a cleaning bill to mother.


Hilarity ensues


However...I'm still looking into this so this is just a draft summary

[pauldun170]

Currently trying to find how the on site assessor is considered a "Government employee"
http://ers.fpg.unc.edu/ers-people

From what I've read so far, an Assessor is someone who completes the training at the University and not affiliated with any state agency...unless we're going to call everyone who works directly or indirectly for or with a state university a government employee.

[pauldun170]

Anyone want to head over to the University and take the training?
http://www.ersi.info/training_live.html
http://www.ersi.info/inpractice.html

[Lamnidae]

.... on the fence now -- mainly because of shitty overall reporting.


But overall I don't think that was a super-bad lunch the mom packed for her kid -- beats the hell outta some of the shit I had when I was growing up.